- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
14 y/o, tried as adult and got life in prison, exonerated 13 years later
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:29 am
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:29 am
quote:
Lawrence Lorenzo Montoya was just 14 years old when he was sentenced to life in prison for a murder he did not commit. And now he is suing the City and County of Denver and Denver Police for $30 million.
New Year’s Day, 2000, Denver teacher Emily Johnson was brutally murdered and her car was stolen.
Denver homicide detectives grilled Montoya for two-and-a-half hours, most of the time without even a parent present.
Attorney Lisa Polansky said they were, “Yelling and screaming in his face, making up evidence, banging on the table and cornering him against the wall. Telling him he’s going to spend the rest of his life in prison and should say goodbye to his mother.”
quote:
According to the lawsuit, the interrogation tape shows detectives coaching Montoya through the false confession. It accuses police of ignoring or lying about other evidence that cleared Montoya.
Montoya was charged as an adult, convicted and sentenced to life in prison. He spent 13 years, 7 months and 13 days behind bars until a judge vacated the conviction in 2014, after new DNA testing exonerated him.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 7:30 am
13
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:32 am to Kujo
Looks like the system worked.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:32 am to Kujo
Kids are kids. Shouldn't be tried as adults under any circumstances.
If you're going to have hard age ranges for things like tobacco, alcohol and voting, you stick to them in all situations and not just when it's expedient.
If you're going to have hard age ranges for things like tobacco, alcohol and voting, you stick to them in all situations and not just when it's expedient.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:32 am to Kujo
Cops and all involved should go to prison for the same amount of time.
And get butt fricked.
And get butt fricked.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:35 am to tiger1014
quote:
Kids are kids. Shouldn't be tried as adults under any circumstances.
Yeah I'm sure that 17 y/o gangbanger Jamal had no clue he was murdering someone. Kids will be kids amirite?
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:35 am to tiger1014
He's about to get paiidddd.
Cops are so fricking stupid.
Cops are so fricking stupid.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:46 am to Kujo
quote:
And now he is suing the City and County of Denver and Denver Police for $30 million.
Hope he gets every penny
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:46 am to tiger1014
quote:
Kids are kids. Shouldn't be tried as adults under any circumstances.
Even though you are trolling...
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:50 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
quote:
Cops and all involved should go to prison for the same amount of time.
And get butt fricked.
Cops are supposed to protect the public but it seems like the pressure on them to "get clearance rates" on murders, ticket quotas, etc stands in contradiction to that and shite like this happens.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:55 am to stout
quote:
Cops are supposed to protect the public but it seems like the pressure on them to "get clearance rates" on murders, ticket quotas, etc stands in contradiction to that and shite like this happens.
its that paired with no consequences. You have got to push them (both with consequence for poor clearance and reward for high clearance) to close cases, but there has to be the counterpoint where they are liable for improper actions, instead of being insulated from consequence for misconduct.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 7:56 am
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:58 am to tiger1014
quote:This point should be ironclad for 14 y/o's. 16 is the only gray area imo.
Shouldn't be tried as adults under any circumstances.
If you're going to have hard age ranges for things like tobacco, alcohol and voting, you stick to them in all situations and not just when it's expedient.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:04 am to airfernando
Similar to the confessions of Steven Avery's nephew.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:07 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Hope he gets every penny
Taxes baw
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:08 am to Kujo
quote:
Denver homicide
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:09 am to Kujo
If that 14 yr old had consensual sex with a 25 yr old teacher, he'd suddenly be a innocent young child rape victim.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:13 am to stout
What pisses me off, as a cop, is if this kid was in prison for over a decade, guess who wasn't???
ETA: Nevermind, looks like he was involved. Just not the murder.
ETA: Nevermind, looks like he was involved. Just not the murder.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 10:11 am
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:13 am to Kujo
Here's a link without all the sensationalism in the OP's link:
LINK
So this isn't some totally random bystander that was snatched up by the cops and railroaded on false charges. It's a matter of degrees and insufficient evidence. As in, DNA testing (probably on the rock used to bludgeon the woman to death) showed someone else's DNA, but evidence is still sufficient to prove that Montoya was present during the home invasion incident.
LINK
quote:
A man convicted as a teenager in the slaying of a special education teacher in 2000 has been released from prison after his murder conviction was overturned on DNA evidence. Lorenzo Montoya, 29, pleaded guilty on Monday to being an accessory in the killing of Skinner Middle School teacher Emily Johnson, then 29, in Denver, Colorado. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison but was immediately released because he had already served 13 years and seven months of his life sentence.
quote:
Montoya had always denied killing Ms Johnson or stealing her car but admitted to going for a joyride in the vehicle the following day.
quote:
The 29-year-old was finally cleared when new DNA evidence surfaced. His defense attorney Lisa Polansky told CBS: 'We had done some DNA testing on some physical evidence and found that it exonerated our client.'
quote:
Montoya passed on a new trial and pleaded guilty to accessory to murder.
So this isn't some totally random bystander that was snatched up by the cops and railroaded on false charges. It's a matter of degrees and insufficient evidence. As in, DNA testing (probably on the rock used to bludgeon the woman to death) showed someone else's DNA, but evidence is still sufficient to prove that Montoya was present during the home invasion incident.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:15 am to NoSaint
quote:
but there has to be the counterpoint where they are liable for improper actions, instead of being insulated from consequence for misconduct.
Agreed.
Two New Jersey cops go 5 years in prison earlier this year but the only thing that saved the victim was the dash cam on a 3nd unit that the police department initially tried to hide. It's cases like this that make me avoid any police interaction at all costs. That and some ordeals I have had with them in the course of just doing my job.
Lying NJ cop
Video
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:15 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
$30 million
quote:
Hope he gets every penny
All of this.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:17 am to Kujo
I hope he gets paid. They essentially ruined the kids life. They robbed him of his childhood, high school, college, etc. it will be tough for him to find work until he goes back to school.
Page 1 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News