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re: 12 year old dies on 4 wheeler north of Watson today
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:37 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:37 pm to tgrbaitn08
I'm guessing you don't have kids.
As adults, it's our responsibility to be more careful when we have a child in our care.
Put him in your boat, your car, or on your 4wheeler, we expect you to be a little more careful than usual. He and we trust you do that.
If you don't get that, well... just well.
Have a good evening.
As adults, it's our responsibility to be more careful when we have a child in our care.
Put him in your boat, your car, or on your 4wheeler, we expect you to be a little more careful than usual. He and we trust you do that.
If you don't get that, well... just well.
Have a good evening.
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:40 pm to Grassy1
So let's say this was a boating accident.
Would you still support the, "That's why I won't let my kids ride in a boat" statement?
Would you still support the, "That's why I won't let my kids ride in a boat" statement?
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:40 pm to TigahRag
quote:
You're right .. He should just get off with a slap on the wrist and a $3,000 fine for killing a kid, in spite of his record ..
So you were an eyewitness or just going off his past? At least some douchebag lawyer gets some attorney fees and can pay their entergy bill this month.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:43 pm to Front9Bandit
You do understand how the system works .. right ? The guy's a repeat substance abuse offender that just got arrested for vehicular homicide .. It isn't good for him .. What are you not understanding about this and what are you exactly fighting here ?
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:44 pm to TigahRag
Yet if his system is clean as a whistle and it was an accident it was just that, that's all. Everyone always out to fry someone, but yes with his record I'm sure he's done.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:46 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
What if the person that was killed was 19? Does that change anything?
What laws would you like to see that would have prevented this because the person killed was 12 instead of 19?
That's a fair question. I'm no lawyer, nor do I know the law regarding this.
But we both know that there are laws regarding the way that adults treat children.
Children in general, are not as skilled as adults in evaluating risks. So, I assume the law will put more of a burden on the adult in charge.
In this case, an adult (even a 19 year old) may realize the lack of skill, or experience, or "potential" impairment, or "wrecklessness" of the adult and opt not to ride with him.
How's that sound to you?
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:47 pm to Front9Bandit
quote:
Yet if his system is clean as a whistle and it was an accident it was just that, that's all
Then it probably becomes negligent homicide
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:47 pm to Front9Bandit
He can still be charged and convicted as well as sued in a civil court even though his system is clean. His irresponsible actions will speak for itself. Being negligent is being negligent, whether you're under the influence or not.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:48 pm to Front9Bandit
As was pointed out earlier in the thread the charge of vehicular homicide means his system wasn't clean
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:49 pm to tgrbaitn08
Under the influence fricks his legal life .. the kid's parents will frick his financial life in a civil suit ..
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:50 pm to TigahRag
Those parents chose him as his godfather
Somehat presumptuous to think they would sue a family member or close friend
But we are all about presumptions
Somehat presumptuous to think they would sue a family member or close friend
But we are all about presumptions
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:51 pm to yellowfin
Well he's fricked /thread
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
Yes I'm dead fricking serious. The age of the deceased has nothing to do with the reckless acts of some dumbass adult driving irresponsible enough to kill a person.
You seem to be the only one who feels this way.
Louisiana's negligent homicide law recognizes the relevance of the victim's youth. As do several other criminal statutes.
Bottom line, we are expected to exercise greater caution with young uns. Society and the law both seem to agree that the loss of a child is a greater loss.
If you don't agree with that, I'm not sure how I could convince you.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
So let's say this was a boating accident.
Would you still support the, "That's why I won't let my kids ride in a boat" statement?
Good question.
I do let my kid ride in a boat. There are certainly situations and people that I wouldn't let her ride in (with my knowledge.)
I'm not too keen on 4wheelers, but I have one. She's ridden many times on the back of mine, with me.
Would I want her riding on the back of one with one of her friends? Nope. A responsible adult? Maybe.
If she grew up in the country, riding them all the time, I'd be much more trustworthy of her skills. We live in a subdivision with pretty much city kids that I don't trust with their big heavy atv's.
One of the most difficult jobs of a parent is managing risk. We want them to have fun and learn, be exposed, etc. We don't want them to be maimed or die.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:56 pm to Grassy1
quote:
Kids tend to trust adults. Kid gets on a 4wheeler, he expects the adult not to do something that will kill him.
Even as a kid, I refused to ride 4-wheelers with most people -- including my own father. I would ride all day with my best girlfriend and we'd take turns driving because we both liked riding on trails/flat land. But I refused to ride with people who went more off-road than that.
And even riding on flat land, I managed to flip it once. Crashed my dirt bike a few times too. That shite is dangerous, and I have no desire to ride with people to this day.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:56 pm to Croacka
Family will civilly sue each other .. ever heard of divorce ? It happens ... Sure, they may not sue him or file a civil suit since it would just be trying to get blood from a turnip ... Don't really understand what you are defending here outside of just wanting to make your mark as a contrarian .. A roided up dude, with a criminal past of violence and controlled substance abuse, climbs on an ATV and negotiates it in such a negligent fashion that someone's child loses his life .. and you seem to want to defend him .. I don't get it .. It's strange ..
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:57 pm to TigahRag
Probably would get more out of property owners liability insurance
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:58 pm to bendellee
quote:
quote:
Yes I'm dead fricking serious. The age of the deceased has nothing to do with the reckless acts of some dumbass adult driving irresponsible enough to kill a person.
You seem to be the only one who feels this way.
Louisiana's negligent homicide law recognizes the relevance of the victim's youth. As do several other criminal statutes.
Bottom line, we are expected to exercise greater caution with young uns. Society and the law both seem to agree that the loss of a child is a greater loss.
If you don't agree with that, I'm not sure how I could convince you.
The victims age won't determine the charge. It could have been a 90 year old grandmother. If he was negligent then it's cut and dry. He will be charged accordingly, regardless of the age of the victim.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:58 pm to TigahRag
I'm not defending him
I'm defending the fact that he deserves a chance to be judged based on all of the facts
I'm defending the fact that he deserves a chance to be judged based on all of the facts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:59 pm to LouisianaLady
To LaNurse...
1. you were experienced enough to know what you stated
2. it's not unusual for females to take less risks when it comes to motor vehicles
but thanks for your perspective!
I agree, they are dangerous. The first time I rode a 4wheeler, I was an adult... I followed my friend up a little bank. It jumped up, landed in front of me and stood straight up on the rear rack. Could have landed on me and hurt me bad. I got real careful after that.
1. you were experienced enough to know what you stated
2. it's not unusual for females to take less risks when it comes to motor vehicles
but thanks for your perspective!
I agree, they are dangerous. The first time I rode a 4wheeler, I was an adult... I followed my friend up a little bank. It jumped up, landed in front of me and stood straight up on the rear rack. Could have landed on me and hurt me bad. I got real careful after that.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 9:04 pm
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