- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
100% of Volvo fleet will have some form of electric motor by 2019
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:48 am
Money
The Swedish automaker is slamming on the brakes on vehicles powered solely by internal combustion engines, announcing that every car it makes from 2019 onward will have an electric motor.
The move makes Chinese-owned Volvo the first traditional carmaker to fully embrace electric and hybrid production.
Volvo said it would launch five fully electric cars between 2019 and 2021. Three of them will carry the Volvo brand, and the other two will come from the company's high-performance unit Polestar.
The rest of Volvo's fleet will consist of either plug-in hybrid cars or mild hybrid cars, which combine a small gas engine with a battery.
Starting in 2019, Volvo will only produce cars that have some form of electric motor -- and no cars running purely on an internal combustion engine.
The shift is likely to have been influenced by Chinese auto company Geely, which bought Volvo in 2010.
China has been swift to adopt electric vehicles. The world's second-largest economy, which is plagued by air pollution, wants 5 million electric cars on its roads by 2020.
INB4: expensive Volkswagen will break down
The Swedish automaker is slamming on the brakes on vehicles powered solely by internal combustion engines, announcing that every car it makes from 2019 onward will have an electric motor.
The move makes Chinese-owned Volvo the first traditional carmaker to fully embrace electric and hybrid production.
Volvo said it would launch five fully electric cars between 2019 and 2021. Three of them will carry the Volvo brand, and the other two will come from the company's high-performance unit Polestar.
The rest of Volvo's fleet will consist of either plug-in hybrid cars or mild hybrid cars, which combine a small gas engine with a battery.
Starting in 2019, Volvo will only produce cars that have some form of electric motor -- and no cars running purely on an internal combustion engine.
The shift is likely to have been influenced by Chinese auto company Geely, which bought Volvo in 2010.
China has been swift to adopt electric vehicles. The world's second-largest economy, which is plagued by air pollution, wants 5 million electric cars on its roads by 2020.
INB4: expensive Volkswagen will break down
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 8:58 am
13
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:49 am to Tigeralum2008
Not enough Lithium.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:50 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Not enough Lithium.
You know I was thinking the same thing
China wants 5 MILLION EVs on there roads. If they pull that off, other markets will do the same leading to a huge demand for the precious resource.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:51 am to Tigeralum2008
Wonder if Audi will do the same?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:52 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:
to 100% electric fleet
quote:Welp. Fake News.
hybrid
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:52 am to Eli Goldfinger
There's plenty of lithium out there. Just need to up the mining capacity. There may be a lack of supply in the near term.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:53 am to Tigeralum2008
I don't know the range of electric cars, but could you imagine getting stuck in a hurricane evacuation in one of those things? I would probably run out of juice near Gramercy.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:54 am to ell_13
quote:
to 100% electric fleet
quote:
hybrid
Welp. Fake News.
100% of their fleet with have an electric motor by 2019. some will be hybrid in the short term
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:55 am to Tigeralum2008
Time to buy stock...
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:55 am to Tigeralum2008
We just ordered a Volvo, and the hybrid option was $12k more.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:56 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:
Volvo converting to 100% electric fleet by 2019
No they aren't.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:56 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Not enough Lithium.
And also cobalt and nickel. Without battery technology changes, electric vehicles taking over the market is not feasible.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:57 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:Yeah. I read it. But the title/release isn't accurate. It implies no gas needed.
100% of their fleet with have an electric motor by 2019. some will be hybrid in the short term
Posted on 7/5/17 at 8:59 am to ell_13
quote:
Yeah. I read it. But the title/release isn't accurate. It implies no gas needed.
Updated the OP to address any confusion
Posted on 7/5/17 at 9:06 am to texag7
quote:
electric vehicles taking over the market is not feasible.
It goes beyond that, look at the countries that mine for the minerals used to make the batteries. Brazil, Chile, China, Zimbabwe, Argentina, etc... don't give a frick about pollutants. The effects of those companies ramping up mining explorations to make the minerals abundant enough for moves like this completely offset the move from fossil fuel. Doesn't an EV already take 5 years or more to break even compared to it's fossil fuel brethren because of the much higher amount of green house gases needed just during production of the electrical systems? Ramp up the quantity and I'm sure the countries listed above will make sure that quality is maintained and we don't see an even higher rate of greenhouse gases produced during mining.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 9:16 am to AwesomeSauce
quote:
It goes beyond that, look at the countries that mine for the minerals used to make the batteries. Brazil, Chile, China, Zimbabwe, Argentina, etc... don't give a frick about pollutants. The effects of those companies ramping up mining explorations to make the minerals abundant enough for moves like this completely offset the move from fossil fuel. Doesn't an EV already take 5 years or more to break even compared to it's fossil fuel brethren because of the much higher amount of green house gases needed just during production of the electrical systems? Ramp up the quantity and I'm sure the countries listed above will make sure that quality is maintained and we don't see an even higher rate of greenhouse gases produced during mining
I believe we will soon see a shift in the market regarding batteries
We will see a move away from the traditional Li ion battery to other technologies
examples:
Graphene Batteries: are the future. One company has developed a new battery, called Grabat, that could offer electric cars a driving range of up to 500 miles on a charge
Li air breathing batteries: using oxygen as the oxidiser, rather than a material. The result is batteries that can be a fifth of the price and a fifth as light as lithium-ion, plus they could make phones and cars last five times longer.
Nanowire batteries: Nanowires, a thousand times thinner than a human hair, pose a great possibility for future batteries. But they've always broken down when recharging. This discovery uses gold nanowires in a gel electrolyte to avoid that. In fact these batteries were tested recharging over 200,000 times in three months and showed no degradation at all.
This could be ideal for future electric cars, spacecraft and phones that will never need new batteries.
Here's a great article regarding future battery development
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 9:38 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Not enough Lithium.
Graphene use will start phasing in over the next couple of years, which will make lithium ion batteries more efficient and effectively reduce the quantity lithium necessary in each unit. Lithium will eventually be phased out, replaced by sodium and magnesium cell batteries.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 9:48 am to boxcarbarney
quote:
I don't know the range of electric cars
The extremely expensive ones can go over 200 miles, but the ones that ppl in Louisiana can afford go less than 150 mile. LINK
quote:
could you imagine getting stuck in a hurricane evacuation in one of those things? I would probably run out of juice near Gramercy.
That is the main reason why someone that lives in NOLA or anywhere along the Gulf coast and the east coast should never buy an electric car.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:40 am to WeeWee
quote:
That is the main reason why someone that lives in NOLA or anywhere along the Gulf coast and the east coast should never buy an electric car.
I just remember evacuating for whatever hurricane it was before Katrina. This was before the days of contraflow. It took around 6 hours to get to Baton Rouge.
I would imagine the side of the interstate would be a graveyard of electric cars in this situation.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Time to buy stock...
I would think this would be financial suicide for Volvo (if they really eliminate the IC engines). At least leave the door open to utilizing them.
unless this is just a PR stunt.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News