With SP's contract, our only hope is that someone is willing to take him from us

The issue I have with Payton is he seems to have booked it in here. Does anyone remember his earlier years here how much energy he use to show on the sideline? Now he seems like he really doesn't give a shite and just gives Zoolander faces all game. I can still remember when he'd jump up in joy with all those magical timely play calls he'd run on offense in critical moments. I don't think he's a bad coach at all...the problem is he just doesn't care anymore. It's almost as if he's like a money player except he's a coach.

Yeah I just saw you beat me to the punch in another thread and commented on it.

Obviously I agree. Its really our only option.

The Bears just make way too much sense IMO. Perfect situation.

Houston maybe Jax

the only thing that could change things here is if benson fired loomis and took away all player personnel and coaching staff decisions from payton.

that can work

if payton were relegated to just giving his views and input into what he wants, but in the end, its the GM who makes the decisions on what players to bring in and positions to draft, as well as when coordinators and coaches need to be fired and replaced, then the team could improve and have success.

if payton were relieved of all decisions related to the players as well as coaches we have, and was only to coach the team and call plays, I think we can be successful with him.

because lets face it, no team would be silly enough to take on his huge guaranteed contract, they might agree to those numbers but not the guaranteed part.

this experiment of payton having allen learning on the job and hoping that "maybe" "at some point" "figuring it out" just aint happening for us

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and I think he wouldn't want to go to the Jets.

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Its freaking New York. He has history with New York so there's that. Jets could land first pick of draft and Payton can groom QB of his choice.

I'm assuming his contract is like most player or other coaching contracts... We only owe the money if he doesn't get another job. Do you really see Payton quitting coaching? I don't.

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For those who think Payton has phoned it in due to his look on the sideline, I offer a different hypothesis...he knows his team sucks and he is doing what he can with what he has.

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Yes, but he has a major say in the make up of the team, so if the team sucks, it is majority his fault.

why would any team trade for him at this point? he's proven that he's incapable of fixing the defense to even a barely acceptable level. we aren't talking about your average NFL bad defenses. his defenses have repeatedly been the worst defense in NFL history.

as far as the offense goes, it's been great his entire tenure here, but it's also been led by the 3rd greatest QB of all time. the Grayson pick says alot IMO. Payton took Grayson over guys like David Johnson, Danielle Hunter, Ty Montgomery and Kwon Alexander and got absolutely nothing out of him.

you laughing with me or at me chad?

anyway, the point isn't that Grayson busted, the point is that if you take a QB in the 3rd round with a HoF QB still on your roster and you need as much defensive help as you can get, you better be as sure as possible that the QB isn't going to be a total bust. they didn't even trust him to be the backup in year 3 and Daniel looked atrocious in the preseason.