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re: Who was the last LSU player to make an impact?

Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Bull shite. They make threads like every day about it and had like 4 today about it.

All that to say the successful LSU guys may not have been successful in New Orleans? Sometimes talent can and will outshine coaching limitations. No one wants Brandon LeFell. How did you connect Roman Harper (safety) with Withworth (guard/tackle) whom was never "picked up"? You also know people were want Odell and Jarvis when it was evident our WRs were losing a step.

I've only mentioned that you can point out a LSU guy on a Super Bowl team roster the last 4 years as you pointed out. You can actually go beyond the last 4. Some have been major contributors some just role players.
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Is that not why they have a board called Tiger Rant?

The site is called TigerDroppings.com, people in our area love both pro and college football with equal passion. We love our local talent as well. Any fan within our 50 states would want a local talent with potential to produce at the pro level on their team. They know every LSU guy can't come to the team, it's just that most of the best in state guys go there. I remember wishing we'd draft Matt Forte out of Tulane because he would be a great fit for the team. There's nothing wrong with it at all.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2012
3546 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Matt jones

Who?
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 1:09 pm to
You may want to reread my post again. I said most of the impact LSU players were already gone before we even had a pick. Harper was drafted in same 2nd round as Whitworth. Odell went before we had a pick and we had just drafted Cooks so why would we draft Landry. Stephon Anthony was a better player coming out than all 3 of the LSU LBs so idk what you think would be any different with them. And you cannot point out one on the last four years because 3 of them didn't have any. If you go back further the Giants had an old Corey Webster and that's it, Packers I can't remember, and then next is the Saints with an Devery. I'm just saying this if we had drafted all these LSU guys that we actually had an opportunity to draft we really wouldn't be any better like some people believe. Like someone said in one of the threads yesterday that we'd have a better team if we had only drafted LSU players the last 3 years. That is so stupid I don't even know where to start. Just an example of what people actually wanted is everyone wanted to draft one of the LSU RBs because they hate Ingram for no reason but Ingram had shown to be a superior player to all of them.

People need to separate their LSU and Saints fandoms. Like I would love to see the Saints get Tre White in the second or Duke in a later round but it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they went to LSU. People on here want the Saints to get LSU players just cause LSU and that's what gets annoying and stupid.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8602 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:25 pm to
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idiots


Kinda harsh for a Saint brother huh?
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 3:44 pm to
I see that you changed some wording in a few of those sentences. Either way, anyone making those statements on here just want good players. They see guys that were considered decent to good from LSU striving in other places. Payton rarely takes guys that have played college football in the South East region altogether. Usually when he does, it's a bad scouting job like John Jenkins or Stephone Anthony (I think he does better with a good Lb coach).
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I'm just saying this if we had drafted all these LSU guys that we actually had an opportunity to draft we really wouldn't be any better like some people believe. Like someone said in one of the threads yesterday that we'd have a better team if we had only drafted LSU players the last 3 years.

Now look at that statement without bias and think about which guys they may have been referring to in the last 3 years of the draft. They just want to see some local talent that have actually played well in the NFL for other teams and mainly division rivals at that.

I take those comments and say "yeah Kwon or Deion would've been nice." I also say the two Jalen's are playing beyond what I thought the would do in their short careers. Bennie Logan and Tre Turner are monsters out there to. Yes we could've drafted all of them, but felt the need to make picks elsewhere. I'll cheer for them all unless playing the Saints.

Besides all of that, honestly the organization just needs to find some definite talent. No more project picks in the draft. Its great to find that diamond in the rough, but they have been lucky in that department for awhile.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:22 pm to
Collins has struggled more in his first two years then he has been good. Mills took 2015 Browner's place as the 2016 PFF lowest rated corner. Turner is solid but he's nothing special. Logan is just an average tackle who is all her will ever be and I'd rather have Rankins who can still develop into something great. The elite LSU players at their position are Peterson, Mathieu, Beckham, Whitworth, and Brockers and I already went over them in the first post. Landry is close but again we picked a WR with the pick before. If you look at recent Pro Bowl by school. Alabama is first with 6 followed by Florida with 4 then Cal, Georgia, FSU, Georgia, Oklahoma, Pitt, USC, and A&M tied for 3rd with 3. The only LSU guys who made it were picked before the Saints had pick. You dont see anyone here complaining that we dont pick enough Bama or Florida players thats for sure.

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No more project picks in the draft
There were quite a few LSU guys drafted that you could consider project picks. There are also LSU guys over the past few years that have busted. There is talent everywhere and basing a draft pick based off where they went to school is just silly.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30080 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:35 pm to
Landry would have been nice. But colston and Graham were still here playing significant snaps. It wasn't a dire need, long term Yeah but the moment was a cornerback after we lost Greer for his career. Issue was poor gambling on that draft. He makes us better, yes. But we had more needs and wide receiver was just drafted.

Hill was another one people cry about, but Ingram is better.

Turner would have been the best pick. It fit a need and looked at the future. Issue is we didn't have that pick anymore. Once again, sjb was taken.

Hunter was never going to be that good here. He went to the perfect place as well.

Collins was crucified all season by Atlanta fans. He gave up huge plays all season.

Lael Collins was never coming, let's keep that short.

Alexander and debo had question marks in coverage and Alexander was paired with a top 3 olb to help him out they were dynamic together while debo went with an elite defensive coach. They would be like Anthony here with vitt
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 4:40 pm to
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Payton rarely takes guys that have played college football in the South East region altogether.




What?

Since 2010, the following come from an SEC state (not even including Texas)

2016:
Rankins

2015:
Anthony
PJ Williams
Tull
Swann
Murphy

2014:
Sunseri
Powell

2013:
Armstead
Jenkins

2012 (not counting Hicks):
White

2011:
Ingram
Patrick

2010:
Robinson
Graham
Woods


So since 2010, 38+% of our draft picks have come from SEC states




Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:09 pm to
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What?


Once again you purposely omitt, facts to prove a non factual point. Payton has been here since 2006 and there has been 3 to 4 drafts he and his guys didn't take anyone from this region. I'm not saying he has to either...

Since 2006 Payton has taken 13 guys from the southeast

Missouri and Louisville (many in Kentucky that I've met fell as if they are neutral to both) are as north of the southeast REGION as you can get. Since you're laughing you had better not counted Hicks, The University of Regina???...by that logic Onyemata played in the southeast region as well smh. Also everyone of those picks besides, Ingram, Armstead, Anthony (still hoping, but.?.?.?) and Graham were the result of horrible scouting.

So yes, Rankins is a northern boy, as is Patrick, as is Murphy, your whopping 38% turns into 19.7% or 20% to make you feel better.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:18 pm to
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There were quite a few LSU guys drafted that you could consider project picks. There are also LSU guys over the past few years that have busted. There is talent everywhere and basing a draft pick based off where they went to school is just silly. This post was edited on 1/23 at 4:24 pm


I'm not against anything you've said, I'm just not turned off by local fans wanted local talent. We all just want to cheer for a winner. Every year we hear about how well the SEC is doing post NFL draft and which schools keep the most talent on NFL rosters. The top 3 are always LSU, Alabama, and Florida St., with Ohio St. and Florida pushing hard as well. From the outside looking in, you draft where the talent is, but if there is a flyer on a guy like Reggie Bush or even Brandin Cooks you have to take them.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 8:35 pm to
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are as north of the southeast REGION as you can get.


So it's in the southeast region... Thanks

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So yes, Rankins is a northern boy, as is Patrick, as is Murphy


Get your story straight. You already said it was in the southeast....

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Since you're laughing you had better not counted Hicks, The University of Regina???...by that logic Onyemata played in the southeast region as well smh.


Yep, exact same thing. Hicks had zero connections to Louisiana and no way I was referencing his short time at LSU as a joke...derp

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 38% turns into 19.7% or 20%


first, 20% still wouldn't be rare. Second, you already admitted they were in the southeast region.

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Once again you purposely omitt, facts to prove a non factual point. Payton has been here since 2006


I thought I proved my point enough going back to the beginning of the decade. Your post was bullshite.

You once again were talking out of your arse, not sure why anyone would be surprised.

We so rarely draft southeastern players, yet picked 5 of them in the 2015 draft.

Stay woke
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:05 pm to
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Get your story straight. You already said it was in the southeast....

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So it's in the southeast region... Thanks
SMH....I said that in the first place.
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Yep, exact same thing. Hicks had zero connections to Louisiana and no way I was referencing his short time at LSU as a joke...derp

Yes, I guess that one went by me, but "derp" does fit you quite well.
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We so rarely draft southeastern players, yet picked 5 of them in the 2015 draft.

One recent (horrible) draft makes up for everything....
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first, 20% still wouldn't be rare. Second, you already admitted they were in the southeast region.

It's obvious Payton had a preference in previous drafts, but you're going to author against the point just to troll it out...we all get it.

Now go back to sleep....
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:13 pm to
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SMH....I said that in the first place.


.....

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So yes, Rankins is a northern boy, as is Patrick, as is Murphy, 


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One recent (horrible) draft makes up for everything.... 


See this is the part where you try to put words in my mouth after your incredibly idiotic statement gets shredded to pieces. I never stated the Saints drafted well. I stated that it isn't a rare occurrence for the Saints to draft players from the southeastern region and backed it up.

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we all get it. 


Yep, pretty apparent you're not playing with a full deck of cards.

Night snowflake
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 9:53 pm to
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quote: One recent (horrible) draft makes up for everything.... See this is the part where you try to put words in my mouth after your incredibly idiotic statement gets shredded to pieces. I never stated the Saints drafted well. I stated that it isn't a rare occurrence for the Saints to draft players from the southeastern region and backed it up.

What in the world are you talking about? I said the draft was horrible lol. You're either stuck on trolling or you have a compulsion for finding an argument.

One draft out of 10 makes a great case, right? Then you take a statement I made about the 2015draft and said I put words in your mouth?LOL!!! The only thing you're shredding is you own ability to come across as using common sense. You're not that good at spinning things as you believe lol I'm sure many have seen right through your charades on here.

Either way there is something sincerely wrong with you Well, since Payton's Saints draft history starts at your 2010 mark, how did things look before then?.....I'll wait........I'll count your childish insults as well.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:15 pm to
Tyrann Mathieu, Patrick Peterson, Odell Beckham Jr., Trai Turner and Andrew Whitworth, that's LSU's pro bowlers the season before this one. Many of these guys will be back in the near future, Kwon was also named to the Pro Bowl as an alternate this season. So add another to the list.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9910 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:04 am to
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Saints will draft an LSU player this year because some idiots on a message board

Yea. Tell that to the Falcons. Oh wait...
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
453 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:50 am to
As a Dirty Bird and LSU fan I sincerely hope the Aints draft Tre. Y'all need pass rush. Even Deion Sanders couldn't help y'all at cb without a pass rush.
Posted by ST3PH3N
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
465 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:04 am to
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On that note, do you know how many Georgia Bulldogs played for the NFC champion falcons this year? Not the first damn one. Ask falcons/Georgia fans if they give a shite

Does UGA have the most former players in the NFL?

This.
It's even more asinine that the players often fit positions of need but the IN STATE talent somehow gets overlooked.
That's what's frustrating.

Then, it gets even more frustrating when you look at the busts drafted instead.
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1615 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:27 am to
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Six former LSU Football players will participate in the 2017 NFL Pro Bowl this Sunday in Orlando, Florida. They are: WR Odell Beckham Jr. (Giants) OG Trai Turner (Panters) CB Patrick Peterson (Cardinals) WR Jarvis Landry (Dolphins) OT Andrew Whitworth (Bengals) NT Kyle Williams (Bills)
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5355 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:47 am to
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The site is called TigerDroppings.com
I'll just come right out and say it...

frick LSU
And frick the LSU homers
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