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Rand AlThor
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
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Melvin Ingram



This I could be down for. I saw someone from OTC saying that he could be had for a fair, not mega, type deal. Like 8m/year or something. This would be a huge get for us.

Imagine for a second that we sign Ingram, then draft Barnett. Suddenly this is our front, at least on passing downs:

Jordan-Rankins-Fairley-Barnett

Ingram-Robertson/Anthony-Ellerbe/Robertson

Fam



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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
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But whoever we get we need a 3rd down scat bac


Agreed. I'd like to draft one though in the mid rounds. I actually think if this team is going to do anything special in the remaining time we have Brees this is probably a top 3 need for us and the way CSP runs an offense.
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htran90
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
Ingram won't have his hands in the trenches, but we could still have a real "3-4" front with him. Imagine if we missed out on Barnett, but got foster.

Jordan-Davison-fairley/rankins
Ingram-foster-robertson-ellerbe

Even when you go to a 4man front, your front 7 look solid.

Jordan-fairley-rankins-kikaha
Ingram-foster-robertson


Rand AlThor
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
I was thinking that as well, if we managed to grab Foster and signed Ingram it would completely revamp our LBs. That would be a fantastic group.

I would honestly prefer to stick with a 4 man front, I just think it suits our personnel better. Someone like Rankins is just too small to be a 3-4 DL. I know that it feels like playing Ingram at OLB in a 4-3 would be a waste, but I feel like we could scheme it. Ellerbe rushed the passer a LOT this year from the OLB spot in our 4-3. We could do the same with Ingram.


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bayou85
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
i honestly would love to see him. Just dont overpay


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bayou85
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
i mean he went from a team that was 8-2ish? to a team that was 0-10.

I dont think he would have caught Odell anyway. The white guy behind him slowed too.


Rand AlThor
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
He is going to get huge money anyway. Rumored he wanted Von Miller money.


bayou85
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
not worth it. He is not Von


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Weekend Warrior79
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
Zietler is the first name that jumps out to me. Of the top Guards, he's the most likely to hit the market (under 30). There was an article out awhile back that Cincy may not be able to afford him w/ Whitworth, Peko, Dansby, Kirkpatrick... becoming FAs


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LSUZombie
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
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I would take both G's to be fair.

Armstead/Peat
Leary
Unger
Zeitler
Strief/Peat/Armstead

Yes please.



Peat was playing great at Guard. What we really need is one guard and pray that Armstead makes it through a season healthy


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swagsurfin7
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
Trumaine/Gilmore

JPP

Whatever we don't address of those positions in FA, do it in the draft


keakar
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
saw this list and I would say lets forget the top 4 on the list because von miller is too pricey and a luxury for a team that only needs one player to make them better, we are NOT that team. plus we need help at the line a LOT more then in the secondary, so with that in mind I think the saints could and should go get at least 2 of the 5-10 players on this list.

1. Von Miller, 3-4 OLB, Denver Broncos

Miller (94.0 overall grade in 2015) is now five years into the NFL, and seems to be better than ever. In every season he’s been in the league, he’s graded out very well in both run defense and pass-rushing, which led him to be the second-highest graded edge defender in 2015. He saved the best for last with a combined six sacks, one hit, and nine hurries over the AFC Championship game and Super Bowl. His 70 total pressures from the left side during the regular season were the most for any 3-4 outside linebacker.

2. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, Arizona Cardinals

Tyrann Mathieu has emerged as one of the more versatile defensive backs in the league, with the ability to play safety and slot cornerback. He played mostly cornerback in 2015 and earned our top CB grade (91.6). His 41 total stops led the position, and he was one of just four players with five interceptions and five passes defended. He is coming off of a season-ending injury, which might hurt his chances of getting an extension this offseason, but assuming he returns to 100 percent, he will be deserving of one of the top contracts for a defensive back ever.

3. Josh Norman, CB, Carolina Panthers

Josh Norman worked his way into the starting lineup in 2014, had a strong end to the season, and carried that momentum into 2015 with a breakout performance. When he was targeted, he allowed an NFL passer rating of 54.0. This was in large part because he allowed both a low 9.3 yards per catch (fourth-lowest in the league), as well as a 51 percent catch rate, good for top-10 among CBs. He doesn’t have as long of a history of great play as others on this list, and is 28 in a league where cornerbacks rarely make it past the age of 32, so it’s unlikely he gets the long-term deal he’s looking for. However, Norman is at the peak of his career now, and that peak is higher than others on this list.

4. Harrison Smith, S, Minnesota Vikings

Over the past two seasons, Smith (92.8) has become one of the most versatile safeties in the NFL. In coverage, he allowed a 43.3 NFL passer rating, which was second-best among starting safeties. His 94.8 run defense grade was the best for safeties. Even as a pass-rusher, he had seven combined sacks and hits, tied for the most among safeties. It’s not very often that safeties break the bank, but Smith will be one of the exceptions.

5. Kawann Short, DT, Carolina Panthers

There are many reasons why the Panthers improved from 2014 to 2015, and Short’s (90.7) development into a top interior pass-rusher is high on that list. At a bare minimum, he had at least one pressure in all 19 games in 2015. His 68 total pressures was third-most among defensive tackles. Short was also great as a run defender; his 9.8 run stop percentage was tied for 10th-best among defensive tackles. The Panthers already have other star players like Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly locked up for the next several years, and if they are able to add Short to that list, the future will remain bright in Charlotte.

6. Fletcher Cox, DT, Philadelphia Eagles

Before free agency began, the Eagles spent a lot of money to re-sign some of their own free agents. When that was done, there were reports that Cox’s extension would be next. A month has passed, and Cox (90.3) has yet to receive a new deal. With several players locked up for next season—unless Philadelphia is willing to release other big-name players—Cox might be one of the most likely players on this list to suit up for a new team in 2017. He had 77 total pressures in 2015, third-most for 3-4 defensive ends. If he does remain with the Eagles, he will likely move to defensive tackle in their new 4-3 scheme.

7. Jamie Collins, LB, New England Patriots

Ever since Collins (90.1) earned a starting job late in the 2013 season, he has been among the best linebackers in the NFL. Throughout his career, he’s been solid in coverage; his five passes defended in 2015 were tied for third-most among linebackers. Where he’s improved most over the years is run defense. After earning average grades during his rookie year, he was the seventh-highest-graded run defender in 2015 among linebackers. Throw in the eight sacks he had (which led all linebackers, excluding 3-4 outside linebackers), and you have a very valuable asset to a defense.

8. Muhammad Wilkerson, 3-4 DE, New York Jets

The Jets had one of the best fronts in football last year, with Wilkerson (89.2), Sheldon Richardson, Damon Harrison and Leonard Williams. They’ve already lost Harrison to the Giants, and Wilkerson and Richardson are slated to hit free agency next season. Wilkerson recorded 78 pass pressures in 2015, which was second best for 3-4 defensive ends, just behind J.J. Watt. He’s on the franchise tag currently, so there is a chance the Jets could sign him to a long-term deal to help their cap situation this year.

9. Dont’a Hightower, LB, New England Patriots

New England currently has the best pair of linebackers in the league, and once the 2017 season hits, they could be without either one of them. Like Collins, Hightower (88.6) is an asset against the run, when he drops back in coverage, and when he rushes the passer. His 0.56 yards per coverage snap was the second-lowest for 4-3 outside linebackers. His 17.4 pass-rushing productivity was third-best for 4-3 outside linebackers with at least 40 pass rushes.

10. Jabaal Sheard, 4-3 DE, New England Patriots

One of the likely reasons New England traded Chandler Jones to Arizona is that they knew they weren’t going to re-sign him next offseason. Jones became expendable, in part, because of how well Jabaal Sheard (88.6) played for the Patriots in 2015. His 14.1 pass-rushing productivity led all 4-3 defensive ends. Throughout his career, he would have one year as a great pass-rusher, followed by a year as a great run-defender—2015 was the first season he was great at both. With three players from their front seven on this list, the Patriots will be one of the most talked about teams heading into free agency next year.
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50_Tiger
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
You sure that isnt FA from last year???


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Lester Earl
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
Woodhead Will play next season at 32. Not that old for a 3rd down type back and certainly better then what we have had recently. Kevin Faulk played until he was 35 for instance


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Jcorye1
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
A lot of those players already have extensions, it's an old list.


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TigerBait1127
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
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saw this list and I would say lets forget the top 4 on the list because von miller is too pricey and a luxury for a team that only needs one player to make them better, we are NOT that team. plus we need help at the line a LOT more then in the secondary, so with that in mind I think the saints could and should go get at least 2 of the 5-10 players on this list.



That list is from last offseason

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Josh Norman, CB, Carolina Panthers


Member when we tried to pick him up in FA? I member


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WicKed WayZ
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
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Trumaine/Gilmore

JPP

Whatever we don't address of those positions in FA, do it in the draft


Would FAP. Because honestly, Barnett would be awesome, but he's not going to come in right away and be a double digit sack guy. I wish he would be but he's not. JPP would though.

I think that's what the D is missing and hasn't had since Galette's bull shite. I think adding that constant threat of JPP, Ingram or Chandler Jones off the edge would give us at least a top 15 D. And that's all we need.


htran90
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
We need a better rusher with speed.

Imagine if we just simply send a blitz with kikaha with a base four: jpp-rankins-fairley-jordan


Fun Bunch
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
Warford (I think Zietler is a pipe dream)

Mo Claiborne
Prince Amukamara (if the price is right)

Melvin Ingram
Nick Perry

Danny Woodhead

Honestly don't know enough about a lot of the LBs to comment.



WicKed WayZ
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re: Who do you want the Saints to target in Free Agency?
You can throw in Chandler Jones as another rusher. He's had double digit sacks 3 of his 5 years in the league and had 6 the other two.


I would prefer JPP but I doubt the FO is going to spend THAT much on a guy with 7 1/2 fingers


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