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What's your ideal starting defensive lineup?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:02 pm
I'd have to go with this:
Hicks. Bunkley/Jenkins. Jordan
Galette. Lofton. Wilson. Butler
Lewis. Harper. Vaccaro. Greer
I really like the idea of putting Wilson inside. That gives you a ton of options in regards to blitzing and that's where he played in college. I don't trust either Vilma or Hawthorne to stay healthy and we get younger and faster.
Hicks. Bunkley/Jenkins. Jordan
Galette. Lofton. Wilson. Butler
Lewis. Harper. Vaccaro. Greer
I really like the idea of putting Wilson inside. That gives you a ton of options in regards to blitzing and that's where he played in college. I don't trust either Vilma or Hawthorne to stay healthy and we get younger and faster.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:03 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Must include the Dome Patrol.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:04 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Way to puss out on the NT
Looks about right. Wouldn't mind seeing Jenkins move back to cb and Robinson as the nickel.
Looks about right. Wouldn't mind seeing Jenkins move back to cb and Robinson as the nickel.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:05 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
Well, to be honest I see them splitting time for the most part with even Hicks pushing inside on some passing downs.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:07 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
That lineup looks way better than last year...paper wise.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:09 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Only thing I'd change is you can put Wilson and Hawthorne inside and outside. Wilson as the rush specialist and Hawthorne as more of a run stopper and cover guy.
I like the idea of moving KV around to both safety spots(take Harper out on pass downs if he isn't blitzing) and the nickel. For that reason I'll say keep Jenkins or IAQ(whoever the coaches think is better) so you can rotate all 3 of them.
I like Bunkley and Jenkins rotating.
Now if we are talking strictly starting, I'd have Bunkley at NT and Hawthorne as ILB. I see those two as more solid all around players than Jenkins(run stopper) and Wilson(rush specialist).
Edit:
I also agree with hicks moving inside sometimes and for those downs you probably put Smith at DE(like it or not I don't see any other rush ends for a 3-4)
I like the idea of moving KV around to both safety spots(take Harper out on pass downs if he isn't blitzing) and the nickel. For that reason I'll say keep Jenkins or IAQ(whoever the coaches think is better) so you can rotate all 3 of them.
I like Bunkley and Jenkins rotating.
Now if we are talking strictly starting, I'd have Bunkley at NT and Hawthorne as ILB. I see those two as more solid all around players than Jenkins(run stopper) and Wilson(rush specialist).
Edit:
I also agree with hicks moving inside sometimes and for those downs you probably put Smith at DE(like it or not I don't see any other rush ends for a 3-4)
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:13 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
was Hawthrone injured in Seattle? or are we just making one injury his career norm now?
eta: no he wasn't...he missed 1 game in 3 years...so your fear isn't really based in anything
eta: no he wasn't...he missed 1 game in 3 years...so your fear isn't really based in anything
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:16 pm to bonethug0108
Wilson definately needs to be on the outside to utilize his rushing. Wasn't he ranked the #1 OLB when we drafted him last year? I am really excited about him.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:17 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Hicks. Jenkins. Jordan
Thomas. Lofton. Reddick. Butler
Lewis. Harper. Vaccaro. Greer
Thomas. Lofton. Reddick. Butler
Lewis. Harper. Vaccaro. Greer
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:19 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
I really like the idea of putting Wilson inside. That gives you a ton of options in regards to blitzing and that's where he played in college.
I kind of agree because I'd like to see more speed at that spot. But I think Wilson would have a hard time stopping the run.
let him rush the passer from the outside and maybe like you said... blitz him from the middle every once in awhile.
Hawthorne was a solid player in Seattle and I think he had some legitimate reasons as to why he never got going last year. He might not be the fastest guy but he's a hitter.
it really was a circus at linebacker last year. Joe Vitt was gone for half the year and the early injuries to Chamberlain, Hawthorne, and Vilma certainly didn't help.
I doubt we'd have that kind of tough luck at the same position two years in a row, injury wise.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:33 pm to LooseCannon22282
quote:He was a starting MLB in college. He certainly knows how to do it.
But I think Wilson would have a hard time stopping the run.
His problem last year was he was a very undersized DE(weight wise). He can play the run from ILB or OLB. I think the question with him is more his coverage skills.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:35 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Hicks. Bunkley. Jordan
Galette. Lofton. Wilson. Butler
Lewis. Vaccaro. Quddus. Greer
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:46 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
He was a starting MLB in college. He certainly knows how to do it.
oh, I'm sure he does. You don't make it to the pros if that is the case.
I guess I meant that it isn't a strong point in his game. Just look at what the Saints have done with him. He didn't really play that much in his rookie year. I remember reading a lot of scouting reports talking about how he was a raw prospect.
towards the end of his rookie year, he made some plays blitzing the QB up the middle. Last year, he could be effective rushing the passer at times. But stopping the run wasn't a strength. Maybe he is one of those guys who has limited lateral agility or something
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:53 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
DE: Akiem Hicks
NT: John Jenkins
DE: Cameron Jordan
OLB: Victor Butler
ILB: Martez Wilson
ILB: Curtis Lofton/Jonathan Vilma
OLB: Junior Gallette
CB: Jabari Greer
CB: Keenan Lewis
CB: Patrick Robinson
FS: Malcolm Jenkins
SS: Roman Harper/Kenny Vaccaro
I expect a lot of substitutions on the back end, including lining up Harper in the box as Charles Woodson did for Green Bay. Perhaps Lofton and Vilma can spell each other between running and passing plays.
NT: John Jenkins
DE: Cameron Jordan
OLB: Victor Butler
ILB: Martez Wilson
ILB: Curtis Lofton/Jonathan Vilma
OLB: Junior Gallette
CB: Jabari Greer
CB: Keenan Lewis
CB: Patrick Robinson
FS: Malcolm Jenkins
SS: Roman Harper/Kenny Vaccaro
I expect a lot of substitutions on the back end, including lining up Harper in the box as Charles Woodson did for Green Bay. Perhaps Lofton and Vilma can spell each other between running and passing plays.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:56 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Jordan Jenkins Hicks
Galette Lofton Wilson Butler
Lewis IAQ Vaccaro Greer
Galette Lofton Wilson Butler
Lewis IAQ Vaccaro Greer
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:00 pm to xxKylexx
nobody's starting Hawthorne?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:15 pm to drake20
quote:
nobody's starting Hawthorne?
That would probably be safer than starting Wilson.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:58 pm to drake20
quote:I am!
nobody's starting Hawthorne?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:04 pm to goatmilker
Hicks Jenkins Jordan
Gallette Wilson Lofton Butler
Lewis Harper Vaccaro Greer
Bunckley rotating on the line,
Hawthorn, Thomas and Vilma rotating at LBer,
Jenkins at Nickle, White at Dime and IAQ rotating at safety.
Gallette Wilson Lofton Butler
Lewis Harper Vaccaro Greer
Bunckley rotating on the line,
Hawthorn, Thomas and Vilma rotating at LBer,
Jenkins at Nickle, White at Dime and IAQ rotating at safety.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:40 am to Hoodoo Man
"That would probably be safer than starting Wilson."
Wilson one of few on team that can get to QB ...
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