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Vikings away game numbers broken down
Posted on 1/20/10 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 1/20/10 at 9:41 pm
I was a bit curious so I decided to crunch the number with the Vikings on the road. For the sake of those who may not know, the Vikings this year were undefeated at home, but 4-4 on the road. Their 4 wins were against Cleveland, Detroit, St. Louis, and Green Bay. The 4 losses were against Pittsburgh, Arizona, Carolina, and Chicago.
For this upcoming game, there seems to be a focus put on 2 key stats: turnovers and sacks.
Disclaimer: These numbers do not include the game against Dallas. Also, I didn't proof read this, so forgive me for any spelling or grammatical errors.
The Vikings had 46 total sacks this year. 14 of them were against the two games against the Packers; 8 at home (all by Allen) and 6 at Green Bay. 21 of them came on the road, but they also gave up 22 sacks on the road. This number is skewed because of the Green Bay games. Minnesota really had Green Bay's number this year. Green Bay did not record a single sack against Minnesota in either game. So, take away the 6 sacks against Green Bay, and Minnesota only had 15 sacks on the road while giving up 22 (this includes the games against the first three cupcakes they played).
With the exception of Green Bay, Favre was sacked at least twice in every away game. Three times (Browns, Steelers, and Panthers) he was sacked four times in the game.
The turnover story is even more interesting. In the first three road games against Cleveland, Detroit, and St. Louis the Vikings were +7 in turnover ratio. Not hard to do against the bottom of the NFL. Their next five games they were -7 in turnover ratio including the win at GB. Also, in all of those five away games they were never on the positive side of the turnover ratio. In that five game stretch their only victory came at GB, where they were -1 in turnover ratio and sacked Rodgers 6 times. Their worst loss of the year (in a dome stadium, mind you) against Arizona they were -1 in turnover ratio, but didn't record a single sack while surrendering 3.
Still think playing on the road doesn't matter?
For this upcoming game, there seems to be a focus put on 2 key stats: turnovers and sacks.
Disclaimer: These numbers do not include the game against Dallas. Also, I didn't proof read this, so forgive me for any spelling or grammatical errors.
The Vikings had 46 total sacks this year. 14 of them were against the two games against the Packers; 8 at home (all by Allen) and 6 at Green Bay. 21 of them came on the road, but they also gave up 22 sacks on the road. This number is skewed because of the Green Bay games. Minnesota really had Green Bay's number this year. Green Bay did not record a single sack against Minnesota in either game. So, take away the 6 sacks against Green Bay, and Minnesota only had 15 sacks on the road while giving up 22 (this includes the games against the first three cupcakes they played).
With the exception of Green Bay, Favre was sacked at least twice in every away game. Three times (Browns, Steelers, and Panthers) he was sacked four times in the game.
The turnover story is even more interesting. In the first three road games against Cleveland, Detroit, and St. Louis the Vikings were +7 in turnover ratio. Not hard to do against the bottom of the NFL. Their next five games they were -7 in turnover ratio including the win at GB. Also, in all of those five away games they were never on the positive side of the turnover ratio. In that five game stretch their only victory came at GB, where they were -1 in turnover ratio and sacked Rodgers 6 times. Their worst loss of the year (in a dome stadium, mind you) against Arizona they were -1 in turnover ratio, but didn't record a single sack while surrendering 3.
Still think playing on the road doesn't matter?
This post was edited on 1/20/10 at 9:57 pm
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Posted on 1/20/10 at 9:47 pm to DrTyger
This is what I've been thinking about but you really crunched the numbers well and know how to show it.
Green Bay being the worst team in Passer Protection at the beginning of the year really inflated their Sack ratio (which is still impressive, but having Green Bay twice, really?).
We may be 6-2 at home, but the difference is were healthy now and everything matters right here.
We won't be backing down at all and everyone who can play will be out there playing hard and I'm willing to argue that this could and may be the loudest game in Saints history.
Yes, louder than the '06 Falcons one.
Green Bay being the worst team in Passer Protection at the beginning of the year really inflated their Sack ratio (which is still impressive, but having Green Bay twice, really?).
We may be 6-2 at home, but the difference is were healthy now and everything matters right here.
We won't be backing down at all and everyone who can play will be out there playing hard and I'm willing to argue that this could and may be the loudest game in Saints history.
Yes, louder than the '06 Falcons one.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 9:59 pm to DrTyger
well done sir
Posted on 1/20/10 at 11:35 pm to DrTyger
Bump. This took a little bit of effort, so I'm interested in what people think.
Posted on 1/21/10 at 5:53 am to DrTyger
nice work
bump
bump
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:04 am to locotiger
My view is more basic than yours but along the same lines.
Minn at home>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Minn on the road
Minn at home>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Minn on the road
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:29 am to LSUFanNTX
Well, I am getting a 32.33 repeating of course chance of a Saints loss.
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:55 am to Jacksonhawk
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Well, I am getting a 32.33 repeating of course chance of a Saints loss.
I graduated from ULM. Come on man, represent the Liberal Arts dept. better than that :)
Good number crunches. If you look elsewhere, there are great threads about Gregg Williams vs. Brett Favre personally. Those numbers look promising in their own right
Posted on 1/21/10 at 7:10 am to flybynight
Very good crunch....I mean CRUNK!
I heard someone say that the reason that the Vikings get more sacks at home is because the Oline for the away team has to either look in to see the snap due to crowd noise, or go off of the defenses first movement.
Either way, it is very tough to block speed rushers one on one, due to the Williams' taking double teams, with that type of noise and snap count.
I heard someone say that the reason that the Vikings get more sacks at home is because the Oline for the away team has to either look in to see the snap due to crowd noise, or go off of the defenses first movement.
Either way, it is very tough to block speed rushers one on one, due to the Williams' taking double teams, with that type of noise and snap count.
Posted on 1/21/10 at 7:11 am to flybynight
Let's hope the Vikings road woes continue. 
Posted on 1/21/10 at 7:31 am to tiger perry
This is good work, OP.
The Saints are favored to win probably because of the very points that you raise in the OP.
The Saints are favored to win probably because of the very points that you raise in the OP.
Posted on 1/21/10 at 7:40 am to Jacksonhawk
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Well, I am getting a 32.33 repeating of course chance of a Saints loss.
Go get em, Leroy.
Posted on 1/21/10 at 8:00 am to busbeepbeep
Glad someone else has seen that
LEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOYYYYYY
JENKINS!
LEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOYYYYYY
JENKINS!
Posted on 1/21/10 at 8:08 am to DrTyger
Good work, but...
differential, not ratio...
differential, not ratio...
Posted on 1/21/10 at 8:09 am to Sophandros
....and now I feel like a complete idiot.
Fried chicken...
Fried chicken...
Posted on 1/21/10 at 8:11 am to DrTyger
nice
Posted on 1/21/10 at 8:48 am to DrTyger
Good work, I agree that the Vikes are way better at home than on the road. I think a big key is that their D line gets an extra split second jump b/c of the crowd noise forcing opposing Os to go to a silent count. When they're on the road they don't have this advantage and aren't nearly as effective.
I'm feeling cautiously optimistic - good about this game.
I'm feeling cautiously optimistic - good about this game.
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