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The Penalty Controversy at the beginning of the Second Half.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:26 am
Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:26 am
Did Sean Payton make the wrong Decision?
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:32 am to Blind Boy Grunt
Nope. Perfect call. 
Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:32 am to Blind Boy Grunt
Yes /thread
Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:47 am to Blind Boy Grunt
That gutsy call rallied us to win.
Ambush, pt. 2.
Ambush, pt. 2.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:55 am to Blind Boy Grunt
What happened at the start of 2nd half? I missed the first 3 minutes. Got back and Panthers had the ball in great field position. TIA
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:12 am to BestBanker
We had a 3 & out.
On first down we got 7 yards, but there was a defensive penalty.
Instead of accepting (and getting an automatic first down, but only 5 yards instead of 7), CSP declined it so we had 2nd & 3. We failed to convert on 2nd and 3rd so we punted.
On first down we got 7 yards, but there was a defensive penalty.
Instead of accepting (and getting an automatic first down, but only 5 yards instead of 7), CSP declined it so we had 2nd & 3. We failed to convert on 2nd and 3rd so we punted.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:44 am to afatgreekcat
I don't mind the call. 3 plays to get 10 yards at the expense of of 3 yards. Or 2 plays to get 3 yards. It was a favorable 2nd down. We just didn't execute.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:47 am to 3HourTour
quote:
I don't mind the call. 3 plays to get 10 yards
3 to get 5
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:50 am to Chad504boy
Not 3 to get 5. It was a 5 yard penalty with automatic first Down. And Brees talked him into the wrong decision.
Option was 2nd and 3
Or
1st and 10, 2 yards back.
No brainer. Take the 1st and 10
Option was 2nd and 3
Or
1st and 10, 2 yards back.
No brainer. Take the 1st and 10
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:53 am to northeasttiger
quote:
Not 3 to get 5. It was a 5 yard penalty with automatic first Down. And Brees talked him into the wrong decision.
Option was 2nd and 3
Or
1st and 10, 2 yards back.
No brainer. Take the 1st and 10
announcers were thinking 1st and 5
why would you not take a 7 yard gain on a first down play? 2nd and 3 > 1st and 10
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:54 am to Blind Boy Grunt
It was a weird call imo. Hoping Payton addresses at some point this week. Just curious to see hear his thought process on the matter.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:59 am to ShubutaMS
It was defensive holding. Auto first.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:59 am to Chad504boy
quote:
2nd and 3 <<< 1st and 10 + the 5 yards you got by penalty.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:02 am to Ice Cold
The announcers got it wrong. It would not have been 1st and 5. With that said, taking the 2nd and 3 over the 1st and 10 (+5), IMO, was the wrong decision and I would be wiling to bet the ref explained something wrong to CSP. That is not an excuse for not knowing the correct call, though.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:03 am to Ice Cold
quote:
2nd and 3 <<< 1st and 10 + the 5 yards you got by penalty.
2nd and 3 puts you 2 yards further down the field than the previous 5 yard penalty correct? So they you are pretty much taking a 7 yd first down play, 2 plays should get 3 yards... them shitting the bed on those plays made this a bad call.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:06 am to Chad504boy
quote:
. them shitting the bed on those plays made this a bad call.
They get the first, and we probably aren't discussing it as much.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:08 am to SaintEB
quote:
They get the first, and we probably aren't discussing it as much.
pure assumption, we would have been in a longer 3rd down situation
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:11 am to northeasttiger
quote:How is it a no brainer?
Option was 2nd and 3
Or
1st and 10, 2 yards back.
No brainer. Take the 1st and 10
2 yards further downfield, and we have 2 plays to get 3 yards which is better than 3 plays to get 10 yards.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:12 am to Chad504boy
Take the 1st down and matriculate down the field. One penalty at a time if need be.
Certainly made worse by two crappy plays on 2nd and 3rd.
Certainly made worse by two crappy plays on 2nd and 3rd.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:12 am to Blind Boy Grunt
I think Payton's logic behind the call is that we'd been unbalanced towards the pass (as usual) and 2nd and 3 is a favorable running down, so he kept the play
then we ran on 2nd and 3 and lost like half a yard so it didn't work out
then we ran on 2nd and 3 and lost like half a yard so it didn't work out
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