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Spin off: Name me some realistic mid-late rnd centers that we could possibly nab
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:42 pm
I have little to no interest in the off season pre draft/draft time besides FA. I do not follow college football much outside LSU/SEC play. My football season starts post draft/OTA/mini camps time.
So, with that being said, convince me who would be worth a 3rd-4th rnd pick at center and why.
So, with that being said, convince me who would be worth a 3rd-4th rnd pick at center and why.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:44 pm to whodatfan
Name: Marcus Martin
Position: Center
School: USC
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 320 pounds
Projected round: 2nd-3rd
40-yard dash time: 5.36
Bench press reps: 23
Key stats: Martin started 35 games in his three seasons at USC. Originally working as a guard, he moved to center last season, quickly establishing himself as one of the nation's top prospects at the position. He's rated as the No. 1 center by Mike Mayock, Mel Kiper Jr. and Scouts Inc.
If he falls to 3rd do you take him there?
Position: Center
School: USC
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 320 pounds
Projected round: 2nd-3rd
40-yard dash time: 5.36
Bench press reps: 23
Key stats: Martin started 35 games in his three seasons at USC. Originally working as a guard, he moved to center last season, quickly establishing himself as one of the nation's top prospects at the position. He's rated as the No. 1 center by Mike Mayock, Mel Kiper Jr. and Scouts Inc.
If he falls to 3rd do you take him there?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:46 pm to whodatfan
quote:
So, with that being said, convince me who would be worth a 3rd-4th rnd pick at center and why.
better question would be, convince me of a center who we should draft in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd. There isn't one IMO.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:52 pm to Nado Jenkins83
It is unlikely that Marcus Martin falls to our pick in the 3rd.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:55 pm to Fun Bunch
I know that but I was just trying to get the ball rolling here. nobody else has said a name other than me.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:59 pm to whodatfan
Here
Top 5 Centers are:
Marcus Martin 2nd round
Weston Richburg 2nd-3rd round
Travis Swanson 3rd round
Bryan Stork 4th-5th round
Tyler Larsen 5th-6th round
Personally, I'm hoping for Weston Richburg in the 3rd or 4th round
Richburg:
STRENGTHS: Prototypical build for an interior lineman with a powerful, square frame to handle bull rushers and good initial quickness and overall athleticism to block on the move. Good upper body strength to move the defensive tackle and has the balance and quickness to turn and seal his opponent from the action.
Often asked to pull on sweeps, screens and shows impressive quickness and change of direction for a man of his size. Intelligent. Makes all of the line calls and keeps his head on a swivel to help teammates when uncovered.
Durable. Started all 49 games of his career.
WEAKNESSES: Some questions about level of competition, though Richburg played well against top opponents when CSU faced them, including Alabama in 2013.
Effective run blocker, but isn't a mauler with dominating leg drive. He could also stand to show a little more nasty to his play. Possesses the athleticism to handle guard duties but has only started three games there in his career - the first three games of his career.
COMPARES TO: Brad Meester, Jaguars -- Durable, intelligent and a better athlete than most give him credit for, Richburg somewhat anonymously emerged as one of the country's best over his collegiate career, similar to the way Meester proved quietly dependable for the Jaguars.
Player Overview
Richburg's first calling card is his durability, as the Bushland, Texas native started every game over the past four years. He finished off a first-team All-Mountain West senior season, anchoring an offense that averaged 461.2 yards per game through 13 games.
He was invited to the Senior Bowl, where Richburg impressed with his ability to handle powerful bull-rushers from more prominent programs while also showing the ability to get to the second level.
Durable, intelligent and a better athlete than most give him credit for, Richburg is a Top 100 prospect who could ultimately challenge Arkansas' Travis Swanson to be the first pivot off the board if he can continue to build momentum throughout the draft process.
Top 5 Centers are:
Marcus Martin 2nd round
Weston Richburg 2nd-3rd round
Travis Swanson 3rd round
Bryan Stork 4th-5th round
Tyler Larsen 5th-6th round
Personally, I'm hoping for Weston Richburg in the 3rd or 4th round
Richburg:
STRENGTHS: Prototypical build for an interior lineman with a powerful, square frame to handle bull rushers and good initial quickness and overall athleticism to block on the move. Good upper body strength to move the defensive tackle and has the balance and quickness to turn and seal his opponent from the action.
Often asked to pull on sweeps, screens and shows impressive quickness and change of direction for a man of his size. Intelligent. Makes all of the line calls and keeps his head on a swivel to help teammates when uncovered.
Durable. Started all 49 games of his career.
WEAKNESSES: Some questions about level of competition, though Richburg played well against top opponents when CSU faced them, including Alabama in 2013.
Effective run blocker, but isn't a mauler with dominating leg drive. He could also stand to show a little more nasty to his play. Possesses the athleticism to handle guard duties but has only started three games there in his career - the first three games of his career.
COMPARES TO: Brad Meester, Jaguars -- Durable, intelligent and a better athlete than most give him credit for, Richburg somewhat anonymously emerged as one of the country's best over his collegiate career, similar to the way Meester proved quietly dependable for the Jaguars.
Player Overview
Richburg's first calling card is his durability, as the Bushland, Texas native started every game over the past four years. He finished off a first-team All-Mountain West senior season, anchoring an offense that averaged 461.2 yards per game through 13 games.
He was invited to the Senior Bowl, where Richburg impressed with his ability to handle powerful bull-rushers from more prominent programs while also showing the ability to get to the second level.
Durable, intelligent and a better athlete than most give him credit for, Richburg is a Top 100 prospect who could ultimately challenge Arkansas' Travis Swanson to be the first pivot off the board if he can continue to build momentum throughout the draft process.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:01 pm to GOON
quote:
Bryan Stork 4th-5th round
Tyler Larsen 5th-6th round
Now you're speaking my language.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:02 pm to Mouth
Yeah, I'm not thinking a center before the fourth, and preferably after.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:03 pm to Mouth
quote:
Bryan Stork 4th-5th round
I would think this would scare most people on this board away:
quote:
COMPARES TO: Brian De La Puente, Saints: Competitiveness and savvy as a pass blocker could get Stork drafted, but like De La Puente (who played for four teams before latching on with the Saints), Stork could bounce around a bit as he gains strength before finding a true fit.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:09 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
Marcus Martin
quote:
If he falls to 3rd do you take him there?
If he falls to our pick in the third, I think that's a value we won't pass on. But I don't think he'll last that long. You have to like this about him though:
quote:
COMPARES TO: Alex Mack, Cleveland Browns
If either Martin or Richburg are there at our pick in the third, I think we definitely consider it.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:11 pm to whodatfan
I couldn't even tell you a single center in this draft
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:29 pm to whodatfan
I like Marcus Martin...wouldn't be mad if they took him in the 2nd...would love it if he fell to the 3rd.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:45 pm to Dharma Initiative
quote:Well frick you too.
Good cause no one asked.
Eta: and the op did in the fricking title of the thread.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:57 pm to drake20
Exactly.
1st round wr
2nd round Martin
3rd round cb
1st round wr
2nd round Martin
3rd round cb
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:04 pm to whodatfan
I'm a fan of Martin, Richburg, and Swanson and I would be disappointed if we passed on any of them in round 3. They're all players who could immediately come in to compete and probably be upgrades at the position.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:10 pm to whodatfan
Matt Armstrong from Grand Valley State just sounds like a guy that would fit in on the Saints O-Line.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:35 pm to whodatfan
It seems after Swanson and Richburg 2-3 round there is a noticable drop off.
Here ya go
Gabe Ikard, C Oklahoma
Height: 6-3. Weight: 303
5-6 rounder
He held his own and did well going against Notre Dame's Louis Nix. Ikard also had a quality outing against Alabama in his collegiate final.
Was solid performance at the Combine.
Ikard started 11 games as a freshman in 2010. He was selected as a First-Team All-Freshman.
Ikard was an Academic All-American in 2011 and graded out the highest of any of Oklahoma's offensive linemen including Habern, Donald Stephenson and Lane Johnson.
Looking around (except for canada) outside the top two they all kinda blend together. This guy looks solid a lot of starts and plays the run better(something I was looking for).
Here ya go
Gabe Ikard, C Oklahoma
Height: 6-3. Weight: 303
5-6 rounder
He held his own and did well going against Notre Dame's Louis Nix. Ikard also had a quality outing against Alabama in his collegiate final.
Was solid performance at the Combine.
Ikard started 11 games as a freshman in 2010. He was selected as a First-Team All-Freshman.
Ikard was an Academic All-American in 2011 and graded out the highest of any of Oklahoma's offensive linemen including Habern, Donald Stephenson and Lane Johnson.
Looking around (except for canada) outside the top two they all kinda blend together. This guy looks solid a lot of starts and plays the run better(something I was looking for).
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