re: SIAP! This needs own thread! All American Landon Turner is a Saint

He had a bad game against Clemson but looks pretty good here against Duke. His tape against SC is good too.

Most of the scouting reports on him are generally favorable and in agreement about his strengths and weaknesses. He is super powerful and dominant in the run game, needs some work in pass pro. Here's PFF's scouting report:

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Position fit: Right guard; man/power scheme

Stats to know: Ranked eighth overall amongst draft-eligible guards

Combine stats:
Height: 6-4
Weight: 330
Arm length: 32 7/8 inches
Hand size: 10 3/8 inches
40-yard dash: 5.58 seconds
Bench: 30
Broad jump: 7-4
3-cone drill*: 8.20
20-yard shuttle*: 4.95 seconds
*Performed at pro day

What he does best:
— One of the biggest guards in the draft at 6-feet-4 and 330 pounds, put up 30 reps on the bench
— Size translates to power. Strength particularly evident on combination blocks, where he consistently generates significant vertical movement
— Also displays his power on down blocks, frequently collapses defensive lineman when he has a shade advantage. Fairly common for Turner to put opponents on their back
— Outstanding pull blocker, road-grader type. Delivers significant impact on contact. Widens the intended point of attack when required to pull out and lead
— Lower body strength matches his upper body, solid anchor in pass protection ensures he can hold up against bull rushes. Rarely cedes ground to power moves
– Flashes awareness to recognize stunts in pass protection. Keeps his head on a swivel to locate defensive lineman rushing from unexpected angles

Biggest concern:
— Terribly non-athletic. Asking him to change direction is a chore
— Marginal athleticism highlighted in pass protection. Lacks the foot quickness to stick with more agile rushers
— Ineffective at the second level and when blocking for screens. Would rather be in a phone-booth than in space. Struggles to sustain blocks against linebackers
— A good number of miscommunications in pass protection to his side

Bottom line: Landon Turner was a major reason North Carolina were so successful in 2015. He may well prove an absolute steal for a power team on Day 3. Although he is less effective in pass protection, Turner still only allowed eight combined pressures (one sack, two hits and five hurries) last season. He is a man-blocking offensive line coaches’ dream, offering the versatility to double-team, down block or pull through the hole. Turner has the potential to make an impact on Sundays.

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Is everyone ok now?

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I was fine the moment we took Michael Thomas. We needed a physical WR and a DT IMO, and we got both. The rest is just bonus.

You think our only needs were WR and DT?

No, but they were our primary needs. The biggest holes.

You don't go into the draft to fill needs, you go into it to get talent, regardless of position. Filling needs is just icing on the cake.

So it would be ok to draft 3-4 players at the same position because they are best available? If we went into the draft looking for talent, not needs, then why didn't we draft tunsil at 12?

I had my drunken melt over not going Tunsil, I still would have preferred it for a few reasons....but it did pave the way for us to grab the WR I've been belly aching for so all works out I guess.