re: Say no to frickin Tim Williams

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Some think that means Barnett will be a better prospect.

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Not really. The game tape will tell you: Garrett faced a ridiculous amount of double and triple teams this year. Like every single snap he played (also missed a reasonable amount of time due to injury).

Anyone who takes their job seriously as a scout or media who covers the draft does not think Barnett is better than Garrett

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Williams isn't capable of a 4.6 though. He'll be a 4.8 guy

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If this is true, he will drop. Who wants a OLB/DE that runs a 4.8?

Yup, I was on the Boulware train all night until that 3rd and 18 where Boulware had Hurts dead in his sight and then just let up so Hurts could make the completion. I don't care how tired you are, in the championship game on a 3rd and 18 which would have ended the game, you gotta hustle through. I was sick to my stomach watching Boulware just quit on the play.

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JJ Watt ran a 4.84... Think i'd want him

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Okay, scratch that

No one is projecting Tim Williams as a true 4-3 DE. He's a pass rush specialist in a sub package, but he could develop into an every down 3-4 OLB maybe one day. Also stop throwing out 40 times, they mean hardly nothing to pass rushers, scouts value 10 yard splits, 3 cone and shuttle times because pass rushers play in a 10 yard box. The gun arrest and failed drug tests may land him as a day 3 prospect or late day 2 and I'd jump all over him.

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Our own Danielle Hunter had 3 sacks his junior season. 3.

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and he went in the 3rd round because of it.

Hunter also played the run extremely well, he just had a terrible DL coach that taught him no pass rushing moves. Hunter was a physical specimen that Brick wasted, the effort was always there though.

I pray Foster or Barnett will be there.

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Not really. The game tape will tell you: Garrett faced a ridiculous amount of double and triple teams this year. Like every single snap he played (also missed a reasonable amount of time due to injury).

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You honestly have not watched much of Barnett this past season then because he was hit with the same type of double & triple teams as Garrett. Secondly, Tennessee was a second half team. They came back from halftime deficits for a majority of their wins. Many of those second half comebacks were sparked by Barnett with a TFL, sack or sack fumble. Pull up the Florida & Georgia games on Youtube respectively & you will see Derek Barnett be a monster in the second half of those games when it mattered most.

When the game was on the line is when Barnett played his best. That's the type of defender who is a game changer. If you watched Khalil Mack play this past season, you saw a player who came alive & was basically unblockable in the 4th quarter when it mattered the most. Barnett plays with that same type of mentality.

There's also leadership intangibles to be considered in comparing as well. Barnett is a born leader who holds teammates accountable for their actions. The Tennessee staff has made it clear that Tennessee players who goofed off or who weren't giving their all at practices would be confronted by Barnett. Dude is a straight alpha in the lockeroom & good players who can get their teammates to raise the level of their preparation & on field play are priceless. Nothing against Myles Garrett, who is a very gifted player but I have yet to hear or read anywhere that he possesses this same trait.

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The defensive end recorded one of the best performances of his career against Florida by taking over the game in the second half to inspire a valiant effort by the Volunteers' shorthanded defense.

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"I get a sense for it, and some young guys tell me they look up to me and stuff," Barnett said. "I continue and try to do things correctly. I feel like everybody's a leader, and everybody's a leader in different ways. I'm not the only leader on the team. We have many great leaders on our team."

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"We lost a few guys, but it's next man up and it just goes to say that we have a lot of young guys in this program who's very talented," Barnett said. "They've all stepped up and played really well. I don't think I've changed myself being a leader. I've just been myself and just continued doing the things we've been doing."

Defensive coordinator Bob Shoop after the game told Bruce Feldman of Fox Sports that Barnett called out several of his teammates for not responding to coaching during a practice last week.

"That's what the alpha male is supposed to do," Shoop told Feldman. "What he did for the team this week I'll never forget. It was pretty impressive."

The most impressive part came in the second half, when Barnett had two sacks and a tackle for loss in a four-play span to end two Florida possessions.

"It was just Derek saying, 'Climb on my back, I got this,'" Shoop told Fox Sports. "I'm not sure I've ever had a player take over a game quite like he did for us."

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The sacks: The first sack, by Corey Vereen, technically came against right tackle Greg Pyke, but Pyke forced Vereen out, but the pocket swarmed in on Eason, who ducked and Vereen took him down. The second sack was Tyler Catalina getting straight up beat by Derek Barnett. The third sack, which was the fumble and touchdown for Tennessee, was again Barnett, but he was against Jeb Blazevich that time.

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Tim Williams is around 250 lbs, and isn't he projected as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB?

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If Tim Williams is 252 lbs. like Alabama list, it must be all in his thighs, he would look small standing next to Julio Jones. He's 6'3"ish and was listed at 237 lbs. in June or July right after weigh ins. He's going to fall into the mid rounds because of his off the field reputation and the fact that he'll probably only be a pass rush specialist.