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Rob Ninkovich expected to announce retirement
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:11 pm
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Patriots did a better job of utilizing his talents than we did. Hopefully our rebuilt staff doesn't make the same mistakes. All the best to Ninkovich.
Patriots did a better job of utilizing his talents than we did. Hopefully our rebuilt staff doesn't make the same mistakes. All the best to Ninkovich.
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:14 pm to hellsu
He already announced it 
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:17 pm to hellsu
Built a house in Covington.
Gonna have a life of mush brain
Gonna have a life of mush brain
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:01 pm to hellsu
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Hopefully our rebuilt staff doesn't make the same mistakes
dude was never healthy here
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:37 pm to geauxtigers87
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Dude was never healthy here.
Granted there were some injury issues but the big problem was fitting him in to the defense and utilizing his talents. Just saying.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:44 pm to geauxtigers87
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dude was never healthy here
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He only played one year here because he didn't fit well in our 4-3 scheme under Gibbs (so why did we draft him? Maybe special teams as he was a late round pick). Health wasn't really an issue (not saying he didn't get hurt, but he wasn't here long enough for it to be a pattern).
Miami had him two years and didn't know what to do with him either.
Hell his first year in NE he didn't do much of anything (one sack and 23 tackles). It took him until his 5th year before he really started doing anything. Can't blame anyone really when you have a 5th year bloomer.
And it's weird how starting his second year in NE his sack totals went on a "curve": 4, 6.5, 8, 8, 8, 6.5, and 4. And people speak about him like he was some huge presence that made an immediate impact in NE and we suck for letting him go when the truth is is took him 5 years to become a good role player (yes I know he technically was a starter but he rotated out a good bit) and now he's done after 7 good role player years.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 6:03 pm to hellsu
I remember he hit Manning late in preseason in 2006.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 6:19 pm to bonethug0108
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he rotated out a good bit
He was among the league leaders for total defensive snaps for 3 years or so.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 6:39 pm to Jcorye1
I know he missed like 4 games last year but he only played 44% of the snaps while playing 75% of the games.
2015 he played 81% of the snaps, so 4 out of 5 defensive snaps. While still good, that's nowhere near the league lead.
You are correct that in 2013 (95%) and 2014 (93%) he played a high count, but that's still not near the league lead and it's no coincidence that was 2 of his 3 eight sack years.
2012 he only played 83%, and again while a high count, it's still a good bit of rotation.
The site I'm using doesn't list before 2012, but in 2010 he only started 10 games. Last year was the first time he missed any games with the Pats outside of 1 game in 2009 (in which he started no games).
So the point still stands he was a role player. He played a lot of snaps most of his time but only had two years he played most of them.
And the point still stands that he wasn't some huge diamond the Pats stole from us because we were too stupid. The Pats barely used him his first year there and it took until his 5th year to start getting starts (10). And he didn't have dominant stats. He had good role players stats and that's what he was: a good role player.
2015 he played 81% of the snaps, so 4 out of 5 defensive snaps. While still good, that's nowhere near the league lead.
You are correct that in 2013 (95%) and 2014 (93%) he played a high count, but that's still not near the league lead and it's no coincidence that was 2 of his 3 eight sack years.
2012 he only played 83%, and again while a high count, it's still a good bit of rotation.
The site I'm using doesn't list before 2012, but in 2010 he only started 10 games. Last year was the first time he missed any games with the Pats outside of 1 game in 2009 (in which he started no games).
So the point still stands he was a role player. He played a lot of snaps most of his time but only had two years he played most of them.
And the point still stands that he wasn't some huge diamond the Pats stole from us because we were too stupid. The Pats barely used him his first year there and it took until his 5th year to start getting starts (10). And he didn't have dominant stats. He had good role players stats and that's what he was: a good role player.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:45 pm to bonethug0108
This is a pretty arbitrary stat collection I'm gonna post but it's still impressive, I think you underrate Nink a lot and what he's done
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There are only 4 players in the last 20 years with
46+ sacks 14+ FR 12+ FF & 5 INT
Jared Allen
Julius Peppers
Jason Taylor
Rob Ninkovich
Posted on 7/30/17 at 8:05 pm to wildtigercat93
True I was looking at his numbers and saw he has very high FF and FR numbers, and that is why that list is short.
But having high FF and FR numbers doesn't change the fact he was a high volume role player for most of his time there, or that he never achieved double digit sacks (yes sacks can be an arbitrary measurement but a benchmark nonetheless) unlike those other guys.
He had a set role and played it consistent and well. He wasn't a superstar that slipped from our grasp like people make him out to be.
But having high FF and FR numbers doesn't change the fact he was a high volume role player for most of his time there, or that he never achieved double digit sacks (yes sacks can be an arbitrary measurement but a benchmark nonetheless) unlike those other guys.
He had a set role and played it consistent and well. He wasn't a superstar that slipped from our grasp like people make him out to be.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:43 am to hellsu
Should we?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:57 pm to hellsu
See, it was a good decision to cut him.
He's a quitter.
He's a quitter.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:55 am to hellsu
Screw that dude, he always takes a shot at the Saints about releasing him instead of being a gent and being thankful the Patriots picked him up and he had a good career with them.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:24 pm to hellsu
What's his numbers in the playoffs? I'm lazy and don't feel like looking them up.
I always remember being a beast in the playoffs
I always remember being a beast in the playoffs
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:51 pm to tankyank13
Here is a link to his page on pro football reference.
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:36 pm to bonethug0108
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Can't blame anyone really when you have a 5th year bloomer.
Yea, we know. The saints can't do anything wrong, ever.
No chance a good coach actually knew how to utilize his strengths. "5th year bloomer" wtf are you talmbout
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:48 pm to hellsu
Can we sign him to a one day contract so he can retire a Saint?
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