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Random rookie free agent question
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:58 pm
Because I'm bored, there's no real sports to dig into right now.
So, a question for the NFL personnel gurus:
This Armstrong kid, the center from Grand Valley St, he got invited to the NFL Combine from a division 2 school.
How do those guys (kids from lower levels that get invited to the Combine) tend to do?
Do they usually make NFL rosters? Sometimes? Rarely?
I mean, not every D-1 player got an invite; and every year we hear about some hidden gem emerging.
I honestly don't know, do they take these guys to the workouts for show, or are they really considered serious prospects?
I'm just curious I guess. I figure Goodwin will be a short-term fix, but will be gone in a year or so. Hopefully Lelito will be the longterm answer, but do you think the Saints might plan to keep Armstrong around a year or so on the practice squad, with the idea being to develop him (or see if they can)?
So, a question for the NFL personnel gurus:
This Armstrong kid, the center from Grand Valley St, he got invited to the NFL Combine from a division 2 school.
How do those guys (kids from lower levels that get invited to the Combine) tend to do?
Do they usually make NFL rosters? Sometimes? Rarely?
I mean, not every D-1 player got an invite; and every year we hear about some hidden gem emerging.
I honestly don't know, do they take these guys to the workouts for show, or are they really considered serious prospects?
I'm just curious I guess. I figure Goodwin will be a short-term fix, but will be gone in a year or so. Hopefully Lelito will be the longterm answer, but do you think the Saints might plan to keep Armstrong around a year or so on the practice squad, with the idea being to develop him (or see if they can)?
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:25 pm to Scoob
I've been reading that Lelito is doing very well and taking most of the 1st team snaps. I think Goodwin is just the safety option. I think from their experience from Kruetz, they want to give the potential future the first shot. Kruetz was kind of a panic move, and it potentially lost us a game or two that year. I doubt Goody would have performed as bad as Kruetz (his heart wasn't in it), but if you think it's close, go with the young guy.
It's also been reported that they're high on Lelito, and they want him to win it.
In regards to Armstrong, who knows. I do know that we have one of the larger scouting departments in the NFL, and it's helped us find some small school gems. The roster we've built is a testament to that.
It's also been reported that they're high on Lelito, and they want him to win it.
In regards to Armstrong, who knows. I do know that we have one of the larger scouting departments in the NFL, and it's helped us find some small school gems. The roster we've built is a testament to that.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:24 pm to Patrick O Rly
Thanks Patrick, I've heard the same regarding Lelito.
I guess I'm too lazy to try to look it up myself, to see how many of those small-school guys came thru the combine to make an NFL team
Seems like the Saints have always been able to find the unknown guy, whether it's Beerman or somebody like Gil Fenerty; Payton/Loomis have certainly continued the string.
Wonder what Michael Lewis (the Beerman) is doing now?
I guess I'm too lazy to try to look it up myself, to see how many of those small-school guys came thru the combine to make an NFL team
Seems like the Saints have always been able to find the unknown guy, whether it's Beerman or somebody like Gil Fenerty; Payton/Loomis have certainly continued the string.
Wonder what Michael Lewis (the Beerman) is doing now?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 pm to Patrick O Rly
I'm really glad to hear that about Lelito
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:14 pm to Melvin
After reading this thread I have a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
I think I will go and read some Winnie the pooh to my daughter.
I think I will go and read some Winnie the pooh to my daughter.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:16 pm to Scoob
Before Goody re-signed, I did a 53-man roster during a break at work with a co-worker. We both got a "sleeper" roster pick.
He picked Brandon Coleman. I picked Armstrong.
My pick was partly based on need/depth at center at the time, but I really believed he could be one of those guys who makes the roster based on preseason production.
His resume of being a two-time Div2 Best OL nominee & recipient just screams "under-rated" to me. Knowing he has played LT, RT, RG, LG, and Center in college, I thought his versatility made him a perfect pick for a backup spot, at a postion of need.
Then Goody signed, and now I'm penciling in "practice squad" for Armstrong the next two years.
He picked Brandon Coleman. I picked Armstrong.
My pick was partly based on need/depth at center at the time, but I really believed he could be one of those guys who makes the roster based on preseason production.
His resume of being a two-time Div2 Best OL nominee & recipient just screams "under-rated" to me. Knowing he has played LT, RT, RG, LG, and Center in college, I thought his versatility made him a perfect pick for a backup spot, at a postion of need.
Then Goody signed, and now I'm penciling in "practice squad" for Armstrong the next two years.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:19 pm to LSUFreek
quote:Coleman is likely destined for the PS, as well.
Then Goody signed, and now I'm penciling in "practice squad" for Armstrong the next two years.
They seem to really want him to succeed.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:35 pm to Hoodoo Man
Just his size and athleticism is pretty rare, even by NFL standards.
I think when pre-season starts, we'll see potential and he's gonna get an IR red-shirt instead of PS to be honest.
I think when pre-season starts, we'll see potential and he's gonna get an IR red-shirt instead of PS to be honest.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:45 pm to htran90
quote:So they can be sure to keep him?
I think when pre-season starts, we'll see potential and he's gonna get an IR red-shirt instead of PS to be honest.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:04 am to Melvin
He's 6-4 315 who moves well. He's stronger than dlp was, and I think he'll be a definite upgrade. We could have some pretty clean pockets this year.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:26 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:You're referring to Lelito, right?quote:
He's 6-4 315 who moves well. He's stronger than dlp was
At first I thought you meant Armstrong, but it couldn't have been him... he pulled a quad at the combine, then a hamstring at his pro day. Both while running the 40. Can't claim that fella moves well, unless in comparison to a park bench
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:24 pm to Scoob
Apparently Armstrong needs new pants.
quote:
Can we get rookie free agent Matthew Armstrong some new football pants?
Armstrong’s practice attire — or lack of it — has interrupted the Saints’ normal color-coordinated look. Armstrong is the lone Saints player that practices in the gold pants he received during last month’s rookie minicamp. The rest of the team, including his fellow rookies? Black.
“They gave them to me during rookie minicamp, and I’ve been riding with them,” said Armstrong, who played center during the 2013 college football season at Division II Grand Valley State. Nobody has told me to change, and they didn’t give me any black ones, so I’m going to roll with what they give me.” Armstrong said he doesn’t plan to ask for matching pants.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:48 pm to GOON
quote:well, can't say that would make me feel like I've got a great shot
Apparently Armstrong needs new pants.
quote:
Can we get rookie free agent Matthew Armstrong some new football pants?
Armstrong’s practice attire — or lack of it — has interrupted the Saints’ normal color-coordinated look. Armstrong is the lone Saints player that practices in the gold pants he received during last month’s rookie minicamp. The rest of the team, including his fellow rookies? Black.
“They gave them to me during rookie minicamp, and I’ve been riding with them,” said Armstrong, who played center during the 2013 college football season at Division II Grand Valley State. Nobody has told me to change, and they didn’t give me any black ones, so I’m going to roll with what they give me.” Armstrong said he doesn’t plan to ask for matching pants.
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