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Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"
Posted by Chad504boy on 3/29/17 at 9:22 am400
CHAOS MASS CHAOS....
yes this means nothing, we were never giving up pick 11
yes this means nothing, we were never giving up pick 11
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by Gugich22 on 3/29/17 at 9:25 am to Chad504boy
Thank God
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by bonethug0108 on 3/29/17 at 9:30 am to Chad504boy
Man they've had a lot of no duhs reported lately.
No one is insane enough (except Ditka?) to give up a high first rounder AND pay a guy big money unless we are talking elite QB or pass rusher.
Like the Manziel thing too. If we were interested we would have AT LEAST brought him in for a visit or workout. That was just Manziel's agent using Rap to drum up interest.
And of course Belichek and Kraft are going to say they have no intentions of trading Butler. They have to or they can get in big trouble.
For what it's worth Casserly said he still thinks we get Butler, and he's a guy that definitely still has a few legit connections in the league.
No one is insane enough (except Ditka?) to give up a high first rounder AND pay a guy big money unless we are talking elite QB or pass rusher.
Like the Manziel thing too. If we were interested we would have AT LEAST brought him in for a visit or workout. That was just Manziel's agent using Rap to drum up interest.
And of course Belichek and Kraft are going to say they have no intentions of trading Butler. They have to or they can get in big trouble.
For what it's worth Casserly said he still thinks we get Butler, and he's a guy that definitely still has a few legit connections in the league.
This post was edited on 3/29 at 9:31 am
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by goatmilker on 3/29/17 at 9:34 am to bonethug0108
Its only going to get worse these next few weeks
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by Nado Jenkins83 on 3/29/17 at 9:40 am to Chad504boy
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by Pendulum on 3/29/17 at 9:47 am to Chad504boy
Chad504, you are doing it wrong. You are supposed to make the title:
Payton: "Won't sign Butler"
And then the post says
"to an offer sheet"
Payton: "Won't sign Butler"
And then the post says
"to an offer sheet"
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by bountyhunter on 3/29/17 at 10:20 am to bonethug0108
quote:
For what it's worth Casserly said he still thinks we get Butler, and he's a guy that definitely still has a few legit connections in the league.
I know it's been a crazy process, I almost wish I didn't bring up what I heard too. FWIW I am still hearing the intention is to trade for Butler, glad to hear they aren't considering using the 11th in an offer sheet scenario.
This post was edited on 3/29 at 10:21 am
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by Brettesaurus Rex on 3/29/17 at 10:29 am to Chad504boy
Well, duh. We were never going to.
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by OC Tiger on 3/29/17 at 10:45 am to Chad504boy
I'm fine with it. Go get the best corner available in the first round.
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by karralum on 3/29/17 at 10:49 am to Chad504boy
Something more to talk about until Butler "ACTUALLY" signs his tender with the Patriots.
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re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by Kato on 3/29/17 at 11:05 am to Chad504boy
Poor Pats fans will be heartbroken
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by wildtigercat93 on 3/29/17 at 11:06 am to Kato
Any pats fan that knows what he's talking about knows that was never a possibility
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by WicKed WayZ on 3/29/17 at 11:25 am to Brettesaurus Rex
I'm wondering if the hold up is still the contract talks between the saints and Butler. I mean there's really no sense in waiting to sign the tender.
If you sign it then you can possibly get traded but if you don't sign it then you're going to miss football and miss out on money you need. The Pats aren't going to sign him to a big deal so he might as well just sign the tender, even if the Pats don't move him
If you sign it then you can possibly get traded but if you don't sign it then you're going to miss football and miss out on money you need. The Pats aren't going to sign him to a big deal so he might as well just sign the tender, even if the Pats don't move him
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by Fun Bunch on 3/29/17 at 11:28 am to WicKed WayZ
I wouldn't be surprised if he is hesitant to sign it because the Pats are playing by the book and will give him no assurances that he will be traded or get a new contract, and he doesn't want to play under the tender.
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by WicKed WayZ on 3/29/17 at 11:34 am to Fun Bunch
That's probably what's going on. But he has to sign it at some point.
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by Chad504boy on 3/29/17 at 11:35 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
I wouldn't be surprised if he is hesitant to sign it because the Pats are playing by the book and will give him no assurances that he will be traded or get a new contract, and he doesn't want to play under the tender.
can't be. bone says it must be between saints and butler about money terms.
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by bonethug0108 on 3/29/17 at 11:54 am to Chad504boy
Think about it.
Butler signs offer sheet and stays with Pats.
Butler signs offer sheet and is traded.
It doesn't matter if the Pats assure him they will trade him. In the end he is going to sign the offer sheet. That's not the hold up.
There's zero rush on his part for two reasons. He can hold out until the deadline and see if the Saints up their offer to get this done sooner, or he waits for a last minute "hero" team to sign him to an offer sheet for big money.
The whole he won't sign because the Pats won't assure him he will be traded makes zero sense. He's going to have to sign at some point regardless (unless he's legit planning on holding out, which is about slim to none).
Butler signs offer sheet and stays with Pats.
Butler signs offer sheet and is traded.
It doesn't matter if the Pats assure him they will trade him. In the end he is going to sign the offer sheet. That's not the hold up.
There's zero rush on his part for two reasons. He can hold out until the deadline and see if the Saints up their offer to get this done sooner, or he waits for a last minute "hero" team to sign him to an offer sheet for big money.
The whole he won't sign because the Pats won't assure him he will be traded makes zero sense. He's going to have to sign at some point regardless (unless he's legit planning on holding out, which is about slim to none).
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by karralum on 3/29/17 at 1:19 pm to Chad504boy
Looking at insiders report apparently NE wants something more valuable than just the 32nd pick. Since 11 is out the question im thinking they want 32 plus another pick..which would fit their M.O
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by wildtigercat93 on 3/29/17 at 1:26 pm to karralum
Interesting side note is that the Pats contacted the Seahawks about trading for Richard Sherman before signing Gilmore. Not directly related, but an interesting tidbit I think given the board has discussed trading for Sherman as well.
re: Payton "won't sign butler to an offer sheet"Posted by WicKed WayZ on 3/29/17 at 2:23 pm to karralum
I'd be okay with giving up another pick, as long as it's a future one
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