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NOPD logs show no record of 911 call to report hit and run
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:50 am
Hayes attorney said Hayes was calling 911 to report he had been the victim
of a hit and run before he rear-ended Smith's SUV. The NOPD logs say otherwise.
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of a hit and run before he rear-ended Smith's SUV. The NOPD logs say otherwise.
LINK
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:53 am to fladohado
Lester Earl still believes the attorney.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:56 am to fladohado
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The attorney for Cardell Hayes, the man accused of murdering former Saints player Will Smith, has said Hayes was calling 911 to report he had been the victim of a hit-and-run before he rear-ended Smith's SUV, leading to an altercation and Smith's fatal shooting April 9. But a review of NOPD logs shows no record of a 911 call made to report a hit-and-run, or any other incident, in the Lower Garden District area where the accident took place and before the time of the Smith shooting, according to a review of police data by NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune. Logs of 911 calls made April 9 show only two calls made from that immediate area late Saturday night: An 11:29 p.m. call to report Smith's homicide at Sophie Wright Place and Felicity Street, followed at 11:33 p.m. by a call made to report a car accident at that exact same location. Surveillance video placed the location of the possible hit-and-run at Magazine Street near St. Andrews Street, more than two blocks away from where Smith died. There's no record of a 911 call reporting anything at that first location late Saturday night. Hayes' attorney, John Fuller, has suggested his client's 911 call would help prove Hayes "was not the aggressor" in the altercation that ended with Smith dead and his wife Racquel shot. Asked about the apparent discrepancy with NOPD's logs, Fuller acknowledged Wednesday that a review of one of Hayes' cell phones does not show evidence 911 was dialed. However, he said he still plans to check the call record of a second cell phone belonging to Hayes, as well as the call log of Hayes' passenger's phone. Fuller said his statement to reporters on Sunday that Hayes called 911 to report the hit-and-run was based on witness statements. Asked if the witness was Hayes, Fuller declined to specify and reiterated the statement came from a witness.
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Calls on record don't include hit-and-run Fuller has said Hayes called 911 after the hit-and-run and prior to a three-car accident at Sophie Wright Place and Magazine Street. That second accident, involving Smith's Mercedes Benz, Hayes' Hummer H2 and a third vehicle occupied by friends of Smith, escalated into the deadly shooting. It was only after the hit-and-run a few blocks away, Fuller has said, that Hayes decided to pursue Smith to get his license plate. That pursuit led to the second crash. Hayes' 911 call came in between the two car crashes, Fuller has suggested. But the only 911 calls made from the area are to report what happened after Smith was shot. The shooting was reported at 11:29 p.m. The second 911 call -- for a traffic accident -- was made from the same location, but only after police had arrived on the scene in response to the shooting, the logs show. Gamble said police could not say if Hayes made either of those 911 calls.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:57 am to fladohado
Color me shocked that the murderers story is turning out to be bogus. Who would have thought?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:00 pm to fladohado
Again, everyone needs to let all the details be released before jumping to conclusions.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:00 pm to Mystery
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Lester Earl still believes the attorney.
just want to see the phone records of Mr Hayes, then you can decide one way or another.
With the way the NOPD is handling this, i doubt they would mention if Mr Hayes dialed in but never came in contact with a dispatcher.
and for the record the major points made my his attorney have all turned out to be true. And we know Will Smiths attorney got in front of the public and lied 3 or 4 times yesterday in his press conference.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:07 pm to fladohado
What you guys think you look like:
What you really look like:
What you really look like:
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:10 pm to Patrick O Rly
I'm not sure which one looks cooler patty
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:13 pm to Lester Earl
With the way the NOPD is handling this, i doubt they would mention if Mr Hayes dialed in but never came in contact with a dispatcher.
So you don't think NOPD has controls around these logs? Come on
So you don't think NOPD has controls around these logs? Come on
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:14 pm to Patrick O Rly
Anthony Davis is mad that guy on the left copied his unibrow
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:14 pm to fladohado
Git up a git git git down.....
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:16 pm to WhoDat37
they control the info presented.
If was stated that Hayes also called 911 after he shot Smith. Yet they mention 2 calls on their log, and dont confirm or deny that Hayes called them.
If Hayes truly didnt call a 2nd time either, why wouldnt they mention that too?
If was stated that Hayes also called 911 after he shot Smith. Yet they mention 2 calls on their log, and dont confirm or deny that Hayes called them.
If Hayes truly didnt call a 2nd time either, why wouldnt they mention that too?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:17 pm to Lester Earl
NOPD sucks arse. Don't trust em one bit. Not claiming conspiracy but they are terrible at their jobs
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:18 pm to Lester Earl
I missed his conference, what exactly did he lie about?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:22 pm to Lester Earl
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they control the info presented.
That wasn't what I asked
I don't think you understand how ITGCs work.
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If was stated that Hayes also called 911 after he shot Smith. Yet they mention 2 calls on their log, and dont confirm or deny that Hayes called them.
Where was that said?
This is what we know from the logs:
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Logs of 911 calls made April 9 show only two calls made from that immediate area late Saturday night: An 11:29 p.m. call to report Smith's homicide at Sophie Wright Place and Felicity Street, followed at 11:33 p.m. by a call made to report a car accident at that exact same location.
And from his own attorney:
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Asked about the apparent discrepancy with NOPD's logs, Fuller acknowledged Wednesday that a review of one of Hayes' cell phones does not show evidence 911 was dialed. However, he said he still plans to check the call record of a second cell phone belonging to Hayes, as well as the call log of Hayes' passenger's phone. Fuller said his statement to reporters on Sunday that Hayes called 911 to report the hit-and-run was based on witness statements. Asked if the witness was Hayes, Fuller declined to specify and reiterated the statement came from a witness.
But you do this intentionally. Just like you added the word ground to the statements made yesterday.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:27 pm to WhoDat37
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That wasn't what I asked
I don't think you understand how ITGCs work.
im not talking about ITGCs, im talking about the press release and subsequent wording of the article
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Where was that said?
Where was what said?
Hayes lawyer claims that he called 911 after he shot Will Smith. Yet this PRESS RELEASE neither confirms or denies that. You know sure as hell that if that didnt happen, it would have been included in this article, right?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:32 pm to Lester Earl
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im not talking about ITGCs, im talking about the press release and subsequent wording of the article
What press release? NOPD didn't comment. It is a basic release of police logs that happen all the time.
All 911 calls are included in the logs. Not sure what you're even suggesting here.
So yes, itgc's and other controls would certainly prevent the removal of calls.
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Hayes lawyer claims that he called 911 after he shot Will Smith. Yet this PRESS RELEASE neither confirms or denies that. You know sure as hell that if that didnt happen, it would have been included in this article, right?
No, because NOPD didn't comment on anything to do with these logs.
If it happened, don't you think his attorney would have confirmed it by now instead of saying this bs:
quote:
Asked about the apparent discrepancy with NOPD's logs, Fuller acknowledged Wednesday that a review of one of Hayes' cell phones does not show evidence 911 was dialed. However, he said he still plans to check the call record of a second cell phone belonging to Hayes, as well as the call log of Hayes' passenger's phone.
It goes both ways.
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Hayes lawyer claims that he called 911 after he shot Will Smith.
Did he? I know he said he called between the 2 incidents
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:33 pm to WhoDat37
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Asked about the apparent discrepancy with NOPD's logs, Fuller acknowledged Wednesday that a review of one of Hayes' cell phones does not show evidence 911 was dialed. However, he said he still plans to check the call record of a second cell phone belonging to Hayes, as well as the call log of Hayes' passenger's phone
That's all I want to know. What does Hayes phone say. When that confirmation comes about we can put it to rest.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:34 pm to WhoDat37
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What press release? NOPD didn't comment. It is a basic release of police logs that happen all the time.
who releases the logs?
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So yes, itgc's and other controls would certainly prevent the removal of calls.
lol i never said they removed calls.
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Did he? I know he said he called between the 2 incidents
yes. So ill ask again, why dont you think they confirmed or denied that?
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 12:36 pm to Lester Earl
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With the way the NOPD is handling this, i doubt they would mention if Mr Hayes dialed in but never came in contact with a dispatcher.
I wouldn't expect them to comment one way or the other. Just secure, then release the logs. It's the prosecuter's job to build a case and the defense's job to build a defense.
What is up with you? I understand your usual contrarian nature, but do not understand the knighting for this guy.
This guy got off 10 rounds (all well placed) and WS got off zero. You think he didn't get out that car intent on murder? LOL.
Please enumerate the "lies" the Smith attorney told? LOL
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