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Nice Cap Space breakdown by Triplett
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:07 pm
NEW ORLEANS -- The New Orleans Saints are roughly $10 million over the projected 2016 salary cap of $150 million, a number they will have to slice before the start of free agency on March 9.
On Monday, I explained why a Drew Brees contract extension should be the Saints' first step in trimming salary-cap space. Here are some other possibilities:
RESTRUCTURING CONTRACTS:
This is the most painless and routine method. The Saints can convert roster bonuses or base salaries into signing bonuses, which would spread out the cap costs over multiple years.
The most likely example will be turning defensive end Cameron Jordan's $6 million roster bonus into a signing bonus, which would divide the cap hit into $1.2 million per year over the next five years. That would save $4.8 million against this year's cap.
New Orleans could do something similar with safety Jairus Byrd, who is due a $7.4 million base salary. Some other deals could save the team about $1-2 million each in cap space.
STRONGEST POSSIBILITIES FOR RELEASE OR PAY CUTS:
LB Dannell Ellerbe: Cap cost $5.9 million. Due $5.2 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $4.5 million in cap space if released before June 1.
WR Marques Colston: Cap cost $5.9 million. Due $3.2 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $3.2 million in cap space if released.
OT Zach Strief: Cap cost $4.6 million. Due $3.5 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $1.3 million in cap space if released before June 1.
LB David Hawthorne: Cap cost $4.51 million. Due $2.25 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $2.25 million in cap space if released.
Thoughts: It's unlikely that any one of these players will be back at their current salaries. But they could all be back if they agree to pay cuts. Ellerbe showed flashes of being a great asset at times in his debut season with the Saints. But the 30-year-old played in only six games because of nagging injuries.
Colston, 32, played a lesser role while also battling some injuries that limited him to 13 games and the lowest receiving totals of his career. He's so valued and respected that if he wants to keep playing, the Saints will probably make room for him -- but probably not at $3.2 million.
Strief isn't breaking the bank. But first-round draft pick Andrus Peat appears poised to take over as the starting right tackle, so this is a place where the Saints could save some cash. Strief has already hinted that he would accept a pay cut to remain in New Orleans -- even if he winds up playing a backup role.
OTHER NOTABLE SALARIES:
S Jairus Byrd: Cap cost $10.9 million. Due $7.5 million in salary and bonuses. Cap hit would increase to $11.4 million if released before June 1. If designated as a post-June 1 release, his cap hit would remain at $10.9 million until June 2, then drop to $3.4 million this year and $8 million in 2017.
G Jahri Evans: Cap cost $8.2 million. Due $4.9 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $3.1 million in cap space if released before June 1.
CB Brandon Browner: Cap cost $6.3 million. Due $5 million in salary and bonuses, including $2.75 million fully guaranteed. Can save $950,000 in cap space if released before June 1.
RB C.J. Spiller: Cap cost $4.5 million. Due $3.25 million in salary and bonuses, including $1.55 million fully guaranteed. Cap hit would increase to $5.3 million if released before June 1. If designated as a post-June 1 release, his cap hit would remain at $4.5 million until June 2, then drop to $2.8 million this year and $2.5 million in 2017.
P Thomas Morstead: Cap cost $4.45 million. Due $3.5 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $3.25 million in cap space if released before June 1.
Thoughts: The only two players on this list who would provide significant cap savings are Evans and Morstead -- and both would be hard to replace. But they are still worth monitoring as possible casualties. Also, it's worth noting that $3 million of Evans' salary and bonuses become fully guaranteed on Feb. 10, so we'll know his fate earlier than most.
The Saints wouldn't gain any immediate cap space by cutting Byrd -- but they would save $7.5 million in cash, which is no small thing. It will be interesting to see if they approach him about a possible pay cut. Or they might invest in him for at least one more year to see if a return to full health and an improved overall defense leads to a boost.
Browner and Spiller would both be in serious jeopardy if the Saints hadn't already guaranteed so much of their pay for 2016. Browner seems likely to stay since he was a full-time starter who showed flashes of being an asset when used properly. Spiller is a bigger question mark since he was barely used at all.
FREE AGENTS
Unrestricted: TE Benjamin Watson, TE Michael Hoomanawanui, RB Tim Hightower, RB Travaris Cadet, RB Kendall Hunter, QB Luke McCown, QB Matt Flynn, G Mike McGlynn, OT Tony Hills, DT Kevin Williams, LB James Anderson, S Rafael Bush, S Jamarca Sanford, CB Kyle Wilson, CB Chris Owens, K Kai Forbath
Restricted: RB Khiry Robinson, G Tim Lelito, G Senio Kelemete, TE Josh Hill
Thoughts: This is a manageable list, which is the best news for the Saints. The most expensive guys could wind up being Robinson and Lelito if the Saints decide they need to tender them at the second-round compensation level (which would require a one-year contract worth roughly $2.5 million).
On Monday, I explained why a Drew Brees contract extension should be the Saints' first step in trimming salary-cap space. Here are some other possibilities:
RESTRUCTURING CONTRACTS:
This is the most painless and routine method. The Saints can convert roster bonuses or base salaries into signing bonuses, which would spread out the cap costs over multiple years.
The most likely example will be turning defensive end Cameron Jordan's $6 million roster bonus into a signing bonus, which would divide the cap hit into $1.2 million per year over the next five years. That would save $4.8 million against this year's cap.
New Orleans could do something similar with safety Jairus Byrd, who is due a $7.4 million base salary. Some other deals could save the team about $1-2 million each in cap space.
STRONGEST POSSIBILITIES FOR RELEASE OR PAY CUTS:
LB Dannell Ellerbe: Cap cost $5.9 million. Due $5.2 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $4.5 million in cap space if released before June 1.
WR Marques Colston: Cap cost $5.9 million. Due $3.2 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $3.2 million in cap space if released.
OT Zach Strief: Cap cost $4.6 million. Due $3.5 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $1.3 million in cap space if released before June 1.
LB David Hawthorne: Cap cost $4.51 million. Due $2.25 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $2.25 million in cap space if released.
Thoughts: It's unlikely that any one of these players will be back at their current salaries. But they could all be back if they agree to pay cuts. Ellerbe showed flashes of being a great asset at times in his debut season with the Saints. But the 30-year-old played in only six games because of nagging injuries.
Colston, 32, played a lesser role while also battling some injuries that limited him to 13 games and the lowest receiving totals of his career. He's so valued and respected that if he wants to keep playing, the Saints will probably make room for him -- but probably not at $3.2 million.
Strief isn't breaking the bank. But first-round draft pick Andrus Peat appears poised to take over as the starting right tackle, so this is a place where the Saints could save some cash. Strief has already hinted that he would accept a pay cut to remain in New Orleans -- even if he winds up playing a backup role.
OTHER NOTABLE SALARIES:
S Jairus Byrd: Cap cost $10.9 million. Due $7.5 million in salary and bonuses. Cap hit would increase to $11.4 million if released before June 1. If designated as a post-June 1 release, his cap hit would remain at $10.9 million until June 2, then drop to $3.4 million this year and $8 million in 2017.
G Jahri Evans: Cap cost $8.2 million. Due $4.9 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $3.1 million in cap space if released before June 1.
CB Brandon Browner: Cap cost $6.3 million. Due $5 million in salary and bonuses, including $2.75 million fully guaranteed. Can save $950,000 in cap space if released before June 1.
RB C.J. Spiller: Cap cost $4.5 million. Due $3.25 million in salary and bonuses, including $1.55 million fully guaranteed. Cap hit would increase to $5.3 million if released before June 1. If designated as a post-June 1 release, his cap hit would remain at $4.5 million until June 2, then drop to $2.8 million this year and $2.5 million in 2017.
P Thomas Morstead: Cap cost $4.45 million. Due $3.5 million in salary and bonuses. Can save $3.25 million in cap space if released before June 1.
Thoughts: The only two players on this list who would provide significant cap savings are Evans and Morstead -- and both would be hard to replace. But they are still worth monitoring as possible casualties. Also, it's worth noting that $3 million of Evans' salary and bonuses become fully guaranteed on Feb. 10, so we'll know his fate earlier than most.
The Saints wouldn't gain any immediate cap space by cutting Byrd -- but they would save $7.5 million in cash, which is no small thing. It will be interesting to see if they approach him about a possible pay cut. Or they might invest in him for at least one more year to see if a return to full health and an improved overall defense leads to a boost.
Browner and Spiller would both be in serious jeopardy if the Saints hadn't already guaranteed so much of their pay for 2016. Browner seems likely to stay since he was a full-time starter who showed flashes of being an asset when used properly. Spiller is a bigger question mark since he was barely used at all.
FREE AGENTS
Unrestricted: TE Benjamin Watson, TE Michael Hoomanawanui, RB Tim Hightower, RB Travaris Cadet, RB Kendall Hunter, QB Luke McCown, QB Matt Flynn, G Mike McGlynn, OT Tony Hills, DT Kevin Williams, LB James Anderson, S Rafael Bush, S Jamarca Sanford, CB Kyle Wilson, CB Chris Owens, K Kai Forbath
Restricted: RB Khiry Robinson, G Tim Lelito, G Senio Kelemete, TE Josh Hill
Thoughts: This is a manageable list, which is the best news for the Saints. The most expensive guys could wind up being Robinson and Lelito if the Saints decide they need to tender them at the second-round compensation level (which would require a one-year contract worth roughly $2.5 million).
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:15 pm to Freaky_Robber
cool piece, thanks. I don't think we can afford to sacrifice OL depth, so I would expect them to figure out Evans, Streif, Lelito, and Kelemente.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:16 pm to Laaz2750
Guys, there is no "N" in "Kelemete".
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:29 pm to The Sad Banana
crap, I do that every damned time... I think my brain wants him to be Italian
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 2:40 pm to Freaky_Robber
quote:
Thoughts: This is a manageable list, which is the best news for the Saints. The most expensive guys could wind up being Robinson and Lelito if the Saints decide they need to tender them at the second-round compensation level (which would require a one-year contract worth roughly $2.5 million).
They are 100% definitely not worth 2.5mil imo.
The biggest money eaters are going to be Watson (if he doesn't retire) and K. Williams (1.5mil last year and continued to play damn well). Everyone else can either go fly a kite or sign for the minimum.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 3:15 pm to Freaky_Robber
honestly, the 10m over seems very manageable as compared to other years. if drew extends, you are basically good right then and there.
if he doesnt triplett has demonstrated it could be as simple as a few restructures and one cut.
this "cap hell" people always throw out there does not really exist. it sucks we have so much dead money, but we are still able to maneuver ourselves pretty easily even with that.
if he doesnt triplett has demonstrated it could be as simple as a few restructures and one cut.
this "cap hell" people always throw out there does not really exist. it sucks we have so much dead money, but we are still able to maneuver ourselves pretty easily even with that.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 3:24 pm to Freaky_Robber
I see them:
Extend Brees.
Cut Colston
Cut Ellerbe (possible extension/pay cut)
Cut Hawthorne
Cut Morstead (possible extension/pay cut)
Strief pay cut
Resign Lelito, Kelemete, Sanford, Hooman, Flynn
Restructure Byrd/Cam
Extend Brees.
Cut Colston
Cut Ellerbe (possible extension/pay cut)
Cut Hawthorne
Cut Morstead (possible extension/pay cut)
Strief pay cut
Resign Lelito, Kelemete, Sanford, Hooman, Flynn
Restructure Byrd/Cam
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:07 pm to Rand AlThor
Strief have any trade value?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:18 pm to Rand AlThor
I'm pretty sure they planned the Jordan roster bonus conversion from the very beginning. So it is safe to say that you can shave $4.8 million off the current salary this season to start.
Loomis planned that with every single player in recent signings including that awful contract to Junior.
Loomis planned that with every single player in recent signings including that awful contract to Junior.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:39 pm to Freaky_Robber
Cut Brandon Browner and Save - The Team
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:50 am to Freaky_Robber
I don't want to see Colston go
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:53 am to hg
Watson Streif and Colston are very much needed as position vets and I'll add we need a vet that can play well in the LB'er group.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:10 am to Rand AlThor
quote:
Resign Lelito, Kelemete, Sanford, Hooman, Flynn
No Watson, Robinson, or Williams?
quote:
Cut Ellerbe
Cut Morstead
I don't see either of these happening. I think Ellerbe stays at his current contract & Morstead restructures/extends.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:38 am to Weekend Warrior79
quote:
No Watson, Robinson, or Williams?
I think Watson and Williams retire. Robinson we may possibly retain but not for 2.5 million.... I don't see the team having 2 RBs at 4 million and 1 at 2.5 million. Too much capital in a position where there is lots of decent vet minimum talent on the street. Especially for backups. Ingram is our every-down back. 7 million for backups isn't doable.
quote:
I don't see either of these happening. I think Ellerbe stays at his current contract & Morstead restructures/extends.
I highly doubt they keep Ellerbe at his current pay. I loved his play when he did get in this year, but they will leverage his injuries against him. I shouldn't have said cut - should have said cut or pay cut. There is too much relief opportunity there for us to hang onto him if he isn't playing.
Morstead - I think you are probably right, but he will need a serious pay cut to make it worth while. He is a great punter and a great Saint but he is the most obvious free cap room on the roster. There are tons of league minimum punters we could get for a slight downgrade and use the money for a positional upgrade.
In the end, I think they will do whatever they have to do to create 15-20 million worth of cap room to make several depth signings (and maybe 1 high quality starter).
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 10:39 am
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