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re: Nate Silver: It’s Time For Drew Brees And The Saints To Break Up

Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71430 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

let's face it: Brees ain't Brady, and Payton ain't Belichick


No, the other 52 not being close to what the Pats have is the problem.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

You really are clueless. The Packers would have never made ridiculous signings like Byrd in free agency. They'd have never overpaid to keep guys like Junior Gallette, they'd have figured out ways to acquire more 2nd-4th round draft picks and would keep their roster full with cheap young talent. They only free agency signings they make are 2nd tier players or bargains like Julius Peppers.


Uh, this entire thread is about the QB position and when to part ways... So when you bring up the packers in this thread, the proper context is what the guy responded to you with. You're the clueless one.

Also, it looks like the Saints are following that drafting model with Ireland
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81124 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:29 pm to
The stupidest thing about Galette was that the video was fricking 3 years old. Why should something that happened 3 years ago effect you now?

All Loomis had to do was say "we were aware of this incident and had already discussed and given Junior internal punishment for it. The matter was closed last offseason. Although the league wide climate around domestic violence has become more prominent this past year, and the widespread release of the video raises the issue again, the New Orleans Saints have always taken the issue very seriously and are proud of our record."

Then have Junior volunteer or some shite and AVOID WASTING $18 MILLION DOLLARS, YOU INCOMPETENT DUMBfrick ORGANIZATION.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Then have Junior volunteer or some shite and AVOID WASTING $18 MILLION DOLLARS, YOU INCOMPETENT DUMBfrick ORGANIZATION.


You have issues man. Seek help
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81124 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:31 pm to
It's an easy solution to saving a ton of cap space and real money and our GM or front office can't come up with it?

They are the ones with issues.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6322 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:33 pm to
The guy was a cancer in the locker room and appears to be a cancer in society. Getting rid of him was worth it.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:33 pm to
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Great franchises in every sport stockpile cheap young talent and draft wisely. They don't break the bank for any position save for QB and maybe one anchor player on defense (CB, LB). They find bargains all over the place. Things the Saints USED TO DO but for some reason stopped doing in 2010 and 2011 and have gotten more and more retarded about since.

Loomis and Payton closed this window on their own through shitty cap and roster management.



+1

So it's time to reverse the trend ... Trade Brees while he still has high value. Stockpile draft picks. Let Payton develop Grayson. Replace Strief. Get a new DC. Overhaul defense. Don't draft shitty.

This will take some time and there will be more lean years, but the sooner things get completely blown up, the sooner the Saints win their next SB.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

It's an easy solution to saving a ton of cap space and real money and our GM or front office can't come up with it?



He wasn't cut for just that issue. You know that though, just want to look at it through kid glasses.

quote:

They are the ones with issues.


I'm talking about a mental health professional. How many alters do you need before you just stop acting like such an idiotic prick all the time.

This is entertainment. Enjoy it...i guess it's all about your bottom line though
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

gizmoflak


Let's go back to your retarded Russell Wilson idea...

quote:

Trade Brees while he still has high value. Stockpile draft picks. Let Payton develop Grayson. 


maybe we'd get to 3 wins in the next 4-5 seasons
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32845 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:43 pm to
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These NFL teams have generally recognized that it’s better to break up with an aging quarterback a year too early than a year too late. And almost none of those decisions look bad in retrospect.


Can I get a footnote on this and what teams didn't regret their franchise QB leaving?

Favre got followed up with Rogers, ok. Montana got followed up by Young. Who followed up Young? What about all the crap that Miami has gone through after Marino? Bills after Jim Kelly? Bulger did ok after Warner left, but only for a year or two, then it's been a shite show. How many 1st Round QBs have died in Buffalo, Jacksonville, Chicago, Oakland, Cleveland and Cincinnati? Everyone remembers Ben Rothlesburger, but nobody remembers the six years of Kordell Stewart before him. There's no guarantee after your QB leaves. That's why they make so much money now.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155249 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:57 pm to
i'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that it's week 3.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30060 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:17 pm to
I would also love to add the fact that Tampa plays us as hard as any team in the league.

We've looked more competitive in our first two games than another 0-2 playoff team with "the next elite qb"...
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:24 pm to
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someone should put together a list of all the QBs drafted or signed since Drew came to town where the teams that drafted them were hoping they would be their next franchise QB, and then we can all look at the list and decide if that's a lottery we're excited about playing right now.

Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6927 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:29 pm to
I like how people think Drew is responsible for WRs not getting separation and his OL not creating running lanes to take pressure off.

Brees is fine, and anyone who thinks otherwise isn't looking at anything past a scapegoat
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155249 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:46 pm to
this team just needs to get healthy
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:50 pm to
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i'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that it's week 3.

how rational of you
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:56 pm to
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ood anecdotal evidence ... the outlier



Do you know what anecdotal means?
Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
60242 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:58 pm to
You're better than this.



I think.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Brees may still have something left — quite possibly enough to lead another franchise somewhere to a deep playoff run — but it’s probably time for he and the Saints to move on from each other



This makes no sense to me.. If he lead another team, why not the Saints??
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1479 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:03 pm to
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