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Landon Collins as hybrid ss/LB
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:23 pm
I started a similar thread on another forum but it lacked thought-out responses with any support.
If he's still there at 31, do you take him? A play-maker in run-support who can also cover TE and RB would be a great addition to our defense.
I can definitely see him playing a lb/ss hybrid role. Browner/Lewis on the ends, vaccarro/byrd at safety and Landon Collins as "big nickel" would be a sick secondary doubling as good run support.
Mike Mayock comparing him to Bucannon:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2015/04/28/nfl-draft-safeties-overview-alabamas-landon-collins-tries-to-pattern-game-after-sean-taylors/
If he's still there at 31, do you take him? A play-maker in run-support who can also cover TE and RB would be a great addition to our defense.
I can definitely see him playing a lb/ss hybrid role. Browner/Lewis on the ends, vaccarro/byrd at safety and Landon Collins as "big nickel" would be a sick secondary doubling as good run support.
Mike Mayock comparing him to Bucannon:
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“I love the way Arizona used him...dime linebacker in their nickel and dime, big enough to take on a run but certainly quick and athletic enough to cover running backs and tight ends, and that’s what I see with Landon Collins.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2015/04/28/nfl-draft-safeties-overview-alabamas-landon-collins-tries-to-pattern-game-after-sean-taylors/
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:41 pm to ST3PH3N
I would laugh pretty hard if we drafted him after he burned LSU. Either way, I wouldn't be opposed to it, just so long as use him like we did Vaccaro his rookie year.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:50 pm to xxKylexx
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I wouldn't be opposed to it
Why? Haven't we spent enough on the safety position?
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just so long as use him like we did Vaccaro his rookie year.
Kenny Vaccaro is still here.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:12 am to ST3PH3N
No need for him
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:27 am to ST3PH3N
Very low position as far as needs.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:42 am to 337Tigah
In that formation, he replaces a linebacker, so it would help with the linebacker need.
Since he's such a great run defender, and better in pass coverage than most of our LB options, that could be an every down formation
Since he's such a great run defender, and better in pass coverage than most of our LB options, that could be an every down formation
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:45 am to ST3PH3N
Why not just draft a true LB then? Collins is a safety not a LB
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:45 am to xxKylexx
I agree. As an lsu fan I have a strong dislike for him, but I can't deny his talent
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:48 am to 337Tigah
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Kenny Vaccaro is still here.
He can't play 2 positions at the same time. Although bush can step in the safety role, which is a valid argument, vaccaro Byrd Collins browner and lewis would be bad arse.
I'm not sold on taking Collins, just discussing what if our other targets are gone and he's BPA. (I'm still crossing my fingers for la'el Collins and DGB in the first)
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Why not just draft a true LB then? Collins is a safety not a LB
https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000375711/article/big-nickel-package-emerging-as-nfls-hottest-defensive-trend
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What is the big nickel package? Every team in the NFL utilizes a traditional nickel package (five defensive backs instead of the four featured in base defenses) as a way to better defend against the pass. Typically, an extra corner will come on to replace a linebacker and will align in the slot to match up with a receiver or tight end. In a big nickel package, the defensive coordinator will instead bring on an extra safety who acts as a hybrid linebacker/cornerback. While the nickel safety is also assigned to cover tight ends and receivers in the slot, he is a more effective run defender and possesses the size, strength and length to match up with the league's increasing number of big-bodied, pass-catching tight ends.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 1:28 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:28 am to ST3PH3N
I wouldn't go that direction but versatile players is what I would be aiming for. It's why I like Dupree, La'El, Kendricks, Devin Smith, and Preston Smith as 1st and 2nd round options.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:03 am to smash williams
Do not want dude will be a bust!
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:04 am to ST3PH3N
We need every down players on D and Safety is already well-represented. Collins biggest knock is that he is weak in coverage. Why not draft draft a LB with decent cover skills rather than a run stopping safety with poor cover skills?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:11 am to ST3PH3N
We could just field an entire defense of hybrid safeties!
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:54 am to ST3PH3N
So over rated
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:55 am to jeff5891
another bama bust
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:08 am to ST3PH3N
Do we really want Roman Harper 2.0 here?
...and no, I'm not talking about the Bama thing, I'm talking about the Safety who plays inside the box like a LB but can't cover for shite.
...and no, I'm not talking about the Bama thing, I'm talking about the Safety who plays inside the box like a LB but can't cover for shite.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:41 am to ST3PH3N
Ohhhhhh no don't need another Safety that can't cover...
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:51 am to ST3PH3N
Not sure he's that good to warrant a top pick.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:51 pm to Jamohn
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.and no, I'm not talking about the Bama thing, I'm talking about the Safety who plays inside the box like a LB but can't cover for shite.
He was smoked on the deep ball a lot in college. His coverage skills are questionable. It's a decent idea OP. I don't want to draft him though.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 4:38 pm to ST3PH3N
Nah
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