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re: Jason Verrett & Jarvis Landry...What could have been...
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:00 am to tigerclaws15
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:00 am to tigerclaws15
You act like tannehill was a scrub last year
That's not what this discussion is about though,Landry has not warranted the "Landry>>>Cooks" notion at all.
Cooks is having his most consistent stretch so far and living in the past like this thread is doing is counterproductive.
That's not what this discussion is about though,Landry has not warranted the "Landry>>>Cooks" notion at all.
Cooks is having his most consistent stretch so far and living in the past like this thread is doing is counterproductive.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:47 am to BilJ
I mean when you have a top 5 offense and a bad defense, maybe drafting defensive players makes more sense. Hopkins would have been nice, but we can manage on the offensive side of the ball. The thing that has killed this team has always been defense. Look at the 2010 and 2011 post season, or hell, go back to 2006. We won a SB b/c we forced turnovers and had good dline pressure. It's a simple formula really.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:29 am to beauchristopher
well you also like men
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:32 am to LosLobos111
jarvis also has a punt return TD and a rushing TD, not to mention that jarvis has ryan tannehill throwing to him and cooks has Drew Brees. Jarvis would be lighting the world on fire if he was on the saints.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:39 am to DatNolaClap
I really like Landry but I disagree. He's an outstanding possession guy, but he's not as versatile as cooks. We need a big WR to go with cooks and Snead and then we'll be just fine there.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:40 am to Lester Earl
How can you think this?!?!? cooks is a str8 line burner with pretty good hands and good route running. Jarvis isnt as fast, but the man just gets open, and what he can do after the catch is great for his "inferior" speed. Jarvis returns kicks, rushes for positive yardage almnost every game (yes, i know cooks has a couple rushing plays himself), has hands like vice grips, and plays with the mindset of a cornered lion. Do you see the blocks he throws on defenders? Just Brutal for a guy his size. Cooks has very little wiggle in those hips and very rarely makes a defender miss. He's not the darren sproles we hoped for. He is a good receiver but, In absolutely NO WAY is brandin Cooks MORE versatile than jarvis landry and in you saying that, you show that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:46 am to CocoLoco
How is cooks more versatile, please enlighten me? and please dont just say, "he can go deep because hes fast".
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:53 am to DatNolaClap
He can run more routes.
He can be a possession guy and a deep threat. He can be used on screens and as a scat back.
There is a massive difference in speed between the two.
He can be a possession guy and a deep threat. He can be used on screens and as a scat back.
There is a massive difference in speed between the two.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:55 am to DatNolaClap
quote:
he can go deep because hes fast".
He can go deep because he's fast is part of the reason. He has good hands too so he can be used on slants and other routes closer to the LOS.
He's has skills that fit a possession receiver and a burner, as we've seen on display the past few weeks. Brees missed him on a deep ball that should have been a td too
I'd love to have both of them
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:11 pm to TigerBait1127
Landry houses punts and handoffs. Cooks goes down at first contact. Laughable that cooks is more versatile.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:11 pm to CocoLoco
Jarvis does all of those things better than cooks except running deep. the screen game is close but id have to give jarvis the edge as hes had more screen opportunities up until this point. and yes, i do remember cooks scoring on that beatiful 30 yard screen play in the beginning of the year. My main problem with cooks is that he just cant make someone miss that much when he is in the open field. If he cant beat the defender to the edge, he is not going to get past him. He has No moves whatsoever besides to change direction and run the opposite way. Not to mention, that Jarvis, although kind of small can go up and win a contested ball, where as cooks does not seem to possess that trait.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:13 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Landry houses punts and handoffs. Cooks goes down at first contact. Laughable that cooks is more versatile.
3 deep tds the last 2 weeks. Derp
He's housed 1 handoff and 1 punt along with 2 Receiving tds. So even with all that, they are still equal in TDs with Cooks coming on very, very strong right now
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:15 pm to DatNolaClap
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Jarvis does all of those things better than cooks except running deep.
Jarvis is a hell of a player, but lacks the deep threat which limits his versatility.
Just because he does some things better than cooks doesn't overcome the speed and deep threat factor imo. He also has a pretty potent group along with him
And his punt return skills are good, but I don't want my top receiver returning kicks anyways. That's how he was hurt last year
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:17 pm to TigerBait1127
Hell Snead is pretty good at getting himself open and is fairly physical
Debating cooks/landry is ignoring the actual problem
Debating cooks/landry is ignoring the actual problem
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:18 pm to LosLobos111
That is actually a better comparison
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:33 pm to DatNolaClap
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How is cooks more versatile, please enlighten me? and please dont just say, "he can go deep because hes fast".
Landry averages 10ypc. He averaged 9 YPC last year. Among the lowest of qualified WRs
Last year, the average length in the air of his catchers was at 3 yards. This year it is 5 yards. Explain to me how that is versatile? He does 1 thing, and that is catch short passes.
Cooks has less catches than Landry, but more yards and more TDs. He averages 13.4 YPC. He can catch short passes, he can beat DBs over the top, and he is really good at catching the slant. The average length of the pass that he receives is over 8 yards in the air.
Im not hating Landry, he is good at what he does, but he is landlocked.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:45 pm to LosLobos111
Snead is better than Landry too
Despite 13 less targets & 12 less catches he has more yards, more reTDs,, 2x as many catches of +20 yards, and just as many first down catches as Landry.
Despite 13 less targets & 12 less catches he has more yards, more reTDs,, 2x as many catches of +20 yards, and just as many first down catches as Landry.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:55 pm to Lester Earl
in the miami offense. not because of his capabilities
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:56 pm to TigerBait1127
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3 deep tds the last 2 weeks. Derp
26 and 21 yd TDs are long now? OK Bro
Cooks may be a more versatile route runner but Landry is more versatile overall. Hes's top 10 in Punt returns and makes plays in the run game too. Cooks nope. Oh Landry can cover kicks too.
Landry 12rush/95yd/1td
Cooks 3/-3/0
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