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Is Sheldon Rankins a bad fit for the Saints?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:48 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:48 am
I certainly didn't think so, but now I've seen 3 talking heads all parrot the same thing. McShay and Polian said it, and now Mayock says it.
I certainly think Rankins can play in any 4-3 as a 3 Tech, and he played as a penetrating NT at Louisville. I think he could play End in a 3-4 in the pros, 3Tech DT in a 4-3. Seems pretty versatile, I don't see the problem...but apparently multiple people think so.
I certainly think Rankins can play in any 4-3 as a 3 Tech, and he played as a penetrating NT at Louisville. I think he could play End in a 3-4 in the pros, 3Tech DT in a 4-3. Seems pretty versatile, I don't see the problem...but apparently multiple people think so.
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:49 am to Fun Bunch
If the talking heads all hate the fit...then he is a slam dunk draft choice. I hate when they like our pick.
2 of those guys have never been a GM or a coach
the other had Peyton Manning to make every decision he made look better than what it was. Polian's only good defensive picks were Freeney and Bob Sanders.
2 of those guys have never been a GM or a coach
the other had Peyton Manning to make every decision he made look better than what it was. Polian's only good defensive picks were Freeney and Bob Sanders.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:49 am to Fun Bunch
I thought all the heads were saying he could play all over the D-line?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:51 am to Fun Bunch
how can it be a bad fit yet the most common selection in mock drafts?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:51 am to Fun Bunch
The more I read, the more he sounds like a situational third down player to rush the passer. We definitely need that but a starting DT would be more valuable, especially in the 1st round.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:52 am to Fun Bunch
He's a bad fit for the NFL. Please, please stay away from this pick!
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:52 am to goatmilker
Like I said, 3 different ones picked him to go to us and then said he was a bad fit, lol. Basically that the Saints love big bodies in the middle of the line and he's a smaller penetrating DT.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:57 am to Fun Bunch
I am not sure why some people think 300 is a handicap for a DT.
Saints have a long history of having 320+ pounders that cant move or shed. Give me the guy with the pass rushing arsenal and motor to make plays.
Saints have a long history of having 320+ pounders that cant move or shed. Give me the guy with the pass rushing arsenal and motor to make plays.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:03 am to Fun Bunch
The thought process is this. Fairley and Jenkins on the line right now....
Both really on one year deals. Which one should we aim to replace?
We know what John can do. So you replace him.
Fairley has better length and hands at the 3 than Sheldon, while near EVERY other DT in the first 2 rounds has higher upside at the 1 than John.
I have the same issues with A'Shawn. They both play too high with their hands, and are gonna get eaten alive if forced to play at the 1. But when you let them over power and bend the edges, at the 3(Sheldon) or 5(A'Shawn)... They'll have a chance to thrive.
Jarran is the best fit next to Nick. After that slide all the way down to Austin Johnson.
Both really on one year deals. Which one should we aim to replace?
We know what John can do. So you replace him.
Fairley has better length and hands at the 3 than Sheldon, while near EVERY other DT in the first 2 rounds has higher upside at the 1 than John.
I have the same issues with A'Shawn. They both play too high with their hands, and are gonna get eaten alive if forced to play at the 1. But when you let them over power and bend the edges, at the 3(Sheldon) or 5(A'Shawn)... They'll have a chance to thrive.
Jarran is the best fit next to Nick. After that slide all the way down to Austin Johnson.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:11 am to partywiththelombardi
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the other had Peyton Manning to make every decision he made look better than what it was. Polian's only good defensive picks were Freeney and Bob Sanders.
he also built a roster that went to 3 straight Super Bowls, but hey who's counting?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:14 am to BilJ
BigJ, what is the tape on Chris Jones showing you? Could he be in play in RD 1
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:19 am to patendedgmf
I just can't see the value in taking a NT who has limited pass rushing skills at 12
Pass rushing is our no.1 draft need. So if it is not Rankins at DT then our no.1 option should be a top tier DE in round 1.
A pass rush makes our back 7 better. It supports Drew and the offense better as well so we are more adept to protecting leads/creating turnovers.
A NT at 12 is a reach IMO based on our personnel. I would rather look to readdress that position in rounds 2/3 if that is how the Saints see it.
Stopping the run on 1st down doesn't mean much if you are not creating enough pressure to disrupt the plays on 2nd and 3rd down.
Pass rushing is our no.1 draft need. So if it is not Rankins at DT then our no.1 option should be a top tier DE in round 1.
A pass rush makes our back 7 better. It supports Drew and the offense better as well so we are more adept to protecting leads/creating turnovers.
A NT at 12 is a reach IMO based on our personnel. I would rather look to readdress that position in rounds 2/3 if that is how the Saints see it.
Stopping the run on 1st down doesn't mean much if you are not creating enough pressure to disrupt the plays on 2nd and 3rd down.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:20 am to BilJ
I am too young to account for his Bill years.
Didn't realize he helped build the best losers in NFL history.
Didn't realize he helped build the best losers in NFL history.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:22 am to Tingle
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The more I read, the more he sounds like a situational third down player to rush the passer. We definitely need that but a starting DT would be more valuable, especially in the 1st round.
I don't see that at all. While he's slightly undersized, this is a passing league. A penetrating DT like him is going to cause negative plays not only in the passing game, but against the run. I think matches very well with Jordan.
I don't think his ceiling is an all-pro player, but I think he's a safe pick that can help our other pieces and will play in the league for a long time
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:23 am to partywiththelombardi
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I just can't see the value in taking a NT who has limited pass rushing skills at 12
Where the hell are you getting this no pass rush skills with Rankins. That is literally the thing he does best.
He's known as a penetrator and a interior rusher.
His knock is his size to hold up against the run and against big linemen constantly.
Edit: My bad you are talking about Reed
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 10:24 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:23 am to partywiththelombardi
also helped build a roster that got an expansion team to the NFCG in year 2. So to write the guy off as a hack that rode Manning's coattails makes you look extremely ignorant.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 10:25 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:25 am to BilJ
Not saying he was a hack. I just think his drafts are a bit overrated.
Also he no longer has his scout teams to help formulate his opinions. I don't trust him as an ESPN talking head. His job no longer depends on accuracy.
Also he no longer has his scout teams to help formulate his opinions. I don't trust him as an ESPN talking head. His job no longer depends on accuracy.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:26 am to partywiththelombardi
quote:La'Roi was 6'2" 290#....just sayin...
I am not sure why some people think 300 is a handicap for a DT.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:27 am to Neauxla
Sapp, Donald, Grady Jarrett, there is a long list of 300 pounders that produce
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:28 am to partywiththelombardi
I was trying to make it hit home more...but yeah, I agree.
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