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re: I'm amazed at the seeming apathy towards Marshon Lattimore
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:28 pm to Rohan Gravy
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:28 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Apparently y'all think coverage is more important than pass rush! OK
The Pats won the SB with only 4 more sacks than we got last year. In todays game, excellent coverage will win games. Look at 2009 when we won the SB.
You know who was opposite Will Smith? Charles Grant. He avergaed 4 sacks a year under Payton. You know why the defnse was so good? Mike McKenzie, D. Sharper, T. Porter and R.Harper
This is not hard to see buddy.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 7:29 pm
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:32 pm to Fun Bunch
Like I posted earlier, people are worried about the injury history.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:38 pm to saintsfan1977
I for once am very excited about the Lattimore pick for a few reasons. I think he is an unbelievable talent and we are lucky he fell to us. People say we need more pass rush, but a large reason we didn't have a strong pass rush last season was because receivers were getting open so quickly. We had a ridiculous amount of DBs get hurt, which only compounded our lack of talent in this position group. Lattimore (and Williams the 2nd round pick) not only give us more talent in that area, but also increase our depth so we aren't having guys start who would normally be on the practice squad. IMO the pass rush will improve if the DBs can give Cam and Co more time to get to the QB. Also, I am SO happy we did not pick a QB in the 1st round. Mahomes is a project, and honestly we have bigger needs right now. Next year there are a lot of better, more ready QBs coming out. We can get better value at QB next year
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:40 pm to saintsfan1977
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We were 4th overall in QB hits last year with 106.
link to that?
how were we 29th in hurries and 4th in QB hits?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:44 pm to Lester Earl
It's on the advocate's website. Underhill just did an article on it.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:52 pm to Rohan Gravy
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1) Lattimore is not even close to Patrick Peterson
As s rated prospect. Yes. He is.
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Pass rush improves your secondary....secondary doesn't improve your pass rush
False. In the modern NFL QBs get the ball out quicker than a pass rusher can get to him. We hit the QB a lot last year actually. We just couldn't cover anyone. It's called a coverage sack. Look it up.
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3) there is a long history of CB failures
Irrelevant.
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4)we have not addressed the pass rusher opposite of Cam Jordan since Cam Jordan has been here
Sure we have.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:52 pm to Lester Earl
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how were we 29th in hurries and 4th in QB hits?
Its hurries, sorry
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:53 pm to WicKed WayZ
That's hard to believe
wonder how we can have only 76 hurries but 106 QB hits. It doesnt really add up, especially when you consider the teams with a lot of hits are also the teams among the leaders in sacks.
wonder how we can have only 76 hurries but 106 QB hits. It doesnt really add up, especially when you consider the teams with a lot of hits are also the teams among the leaders in sacks.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:55 pm to Lester Earl
It's called roughing the passer bro.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:02 pm to saintsfan1977
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This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:02 pm to saintsfan1977
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This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:04 pm to saintsfan1977
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quote: The Pats won the SB with only 4 more sacks than we got last year. In todays game, excellent coverage will win games. Look at 2009 when we won the SB. You know who was opposite Will Smith? Charles Grant. He avergaed 4 sacks a year under Payton. You know why the defnse was so good? Mike McKenzie, D. Sharper, T. Porter and R.Harper This is not hard to see buddy.
Please do not compare the Saints to the Patriots! Really!
Our SUPERBOWL defense was extremely average....it was the first and only year under SPayton that we won the turnover ratio ...and luckily for TD's....
Buddy
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:07 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Please do not compare the Saints to the Patriots! Really!
So if sack leading teams should win games, why was Carolina and Arizona sitting at home? Defense wins championships and they had 48 sacks.
You arent making sense. Im not comparing us to the Pats. You here saying sacks make the difference. I proved to you it doesnt.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:12 pm to saintsfan1977
I never said sacks make the difference....
If it makes you feel better to prove me wrong, well good for you...
It's not about sacks....it's about pressuring the QB....
If you give average QB's in the NFL time, they will pick the best secondary apart
If it makes you feel better to prove me wrong, well good for you...
It's not about sacks....it's about pressuring the QB....
If you give average QB's in the NFL time, they will pick the best secondary apart
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:17 pm to Rohan Gravy
lil dicky you bout got the IQ of a gump barner!!q1
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:19 pm to saintsfan1977
Why wasn't Lattimore the #1 pick in the draft?
What position was the #1 pick in the draft?
What position was the #2 pick in the draft?
Does this draft represent "today's NFL game"?
What position was the #1 pick in the draft?
What position was the #2 pick in the draft?
Does this draft represent "today's NFL game"?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:19 pm to Fun Bunch
But but but he has bad hammies. That's what worries me and a lot of people
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:20 pm to Lester Earl
Look above ya Les. He had the stats flipped.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:21 pm to Rohan Gravy
Wrong. Lattimore is big like Pat Peterson, and effortlessly fast. Both could play offense or defense. They are both freakish athletes. Not all top rated corners have that athleticism across the board. They both have excellent size and arm length, as corners, combined with freaky athletcism. Elite gene pool specimins, both.
Also both are extremely skilled and excell in man coverage.
Do your homework before posting dope
Pat pete, 4.34, 38 inch vert, and 10'6 broad jump at 6'0 215, 32 inch arm length
Lattimore, 4.36, 38.5 inch vert, and 11 foot broad jump at 6'0 193, 31'1/4 inch arm length
Also both are extremely skilled and excell in man coverage.
Do your homework before posting dope
Pat pete, 4.34, 38 inch vert, and 10'6 broad jump at 6'0 215, 32 inch arm length
Lattimore, 4.36, 38.5 inch vert, and 11 foot broad jump at 6'0 193, 31'1/4 inch arm length
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:23 pm to Rohan Gravy
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If you give average QB's in the NFL time, they will pick the best secondary apart
BS.
Here are the best secondaries from last year,
Dallas
NY Giants
NE Patriots
Denver
Seattle
Atlanta
here are the best front 7s
Denver
Seattle
Carolina
Rams
Raiders
Vikings
But carry on
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