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Good Discussion on Cooks from other teams
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:03 am
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:03 am
I liked the 2nd half of the season point. Adding Fleener and Thomas will only open up more for him. His 2nd half of the season production projected to a full season equates to 98 catches, 1476yds, and 16 TDs...
Today's question: The Saints' Brandin Cooks has emerged as one of the NFL's top young receivers, with eight touchdowns over his last nine games. And he is one of the NFC South's most versatile playmakers because of his dynamic speed. The 5-foot-10, 189-pounder is both a deep threat and an elusive open-field runner on shorter throws. How does your team match up against Cooks' skill set, and will they shadow him with a top cornerback?
Jenna Laine, Tampa Bay Buccaneers reporter: In Week 2 last season against the Bucs, Cooks caught five passes for 62 yards against Johnthan Banks and Alterraun Verner, with Sterling Moore lined up at nickel back and no one truly shadowing Cooks. By Week 14, the secondary Cooks faced looked much different, with Moore starting opposite Jude Adjei-Barimah and shadowing Cooks. He was held to three catches for 29 receiving yards. The Bucs had employed this same strategy against the Falcons, Cowboys and Giants, with Moore shadowing Julio Jones, Dez Bryant and Odell Beckham, Jr. in the second half. But Moore isn't there anymore and the Bucs' cornerback group has changed considerably. If defensive coordinator Mike Smith opts to go the shadow route, free-agent addition Brent Grimes would be the likely choice. Size-wise, it's a decent matchup, with both players measuring 5-10, although Grimes has shown he can hang with taller, bigger receivers. Can he keep up with Cooks' 4.33 speed at age 32? Last month, Smith called Grimes "one the fastest and quickest defensive backs I've ever been around."
Vaughn McClure, Atlanta Falcons reporter: I haven't watched a lot of Cooks but from what I've observed, he's a tremendous young talent. So I asked for a little help on this question from Falcons secondary coach Marquand Manuel, who obviously has a better read on the situation than I do. "He's got multiple talents," Manuel said. He can play inside. He can play outside. He's got top-end speed. He can run routes. He's a combination, man. He's like a Percy Harvin on their offense, and you know they're pass-happy. You put him in different positions. You give him the ball on a jailbreak screen. You get him the ball straight down the field. I think he's one of those guys that you always make sure that you focus on." So would Manuel put Pro Bowl cornerback Desmond Trufant on Cooks? "Without a doubt," Manuel said. "But I've also got a guy in Robert Alford who can do the same thing." Cooks had nine catches for 63 yards, with one catch over 20 yards, in two games against the Falcons last season. We'll see if Trufant and Alford make life miserable for Cooks in 2016.
David Newton, Carolina Panthers reporter: Cooks was a player the Panthers coveted as a potential pick in 2014 because they considered him one of the best route runners and one of the most complete receivers in the draft. That being said, Carolina plays a lot of zone defense and won't sway from that to commit one player on Cooks at all times. That the secondary will be rebuilt with 2015 Pro Bowl corner Josh Norman gone lessens the likelihood a player will be committed to Cooks. Carolina was in zone coverage when Norman made the amazing interception on a pass to Cooks in the end zone to save a win in Charlotte last season. Carolina's philosophy is to disrupt the passing game with pressure on the quarterback. If Drew Brees doesn't have time to throw or a good pocket to step into, it doesn't matter how good Cooks is -- it'll be tough for the two to connect. Cooks had 13 catches for 183 yards in two games against the Panthers last season, but no touchdowns. The approach won't change.
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Today's question: The Saints' Brandin Cooks has emerged as one of the NFL's top young receivers, with eight touchdowns over his last nine games. And he is one of the NFC South's most versatile playmakers because of his dynamic speed. The 5-foot-10, 189-pounder is both a deep threat and an elusive open-field runner on shorter throws. How does your team match up against Cooks' skill set, and will they shadow him with a top cornerback?
Jenna Laine, Tampa Bay Buccaneers reporter: In Week 2 last season against the Bucs, Cooks caught five passes for 62 yards against Johnthan Banks and Alterraun Verner, with Sterling Moore lined up at nickel back and no one truly shadowing Cooks. By Week 14, the secondary Cooks faced looked much different, with Moore starting opposite Jude Adjei-Barimah and shadowing Cooks. He was held to three catches for 29 receiving yards. The Bucs had employed this same strategy against the Falcons, Cowboys and Giants, with Moore shadowing Julio Jones, Dez Bryant and Odell Beckham, Jr. in the second half. But Moore isn't there anymore and the Bucs' cornerback group has changed considerably. If defensive coordinator Mike Smith opts to go the shadow route, free-agent addition Brent Grimes would be the likely choice. Size-wise, it's a decent matchup, with both players measuring 5-10, although Grimes has shown he can hang with taller, bigger receivers. Can he keep up with Cooks' 4.33 speed at age 32? Last month, Smith called Grimes "one the fastest and quickest defensive backs I've ever been around."
Vaughn McClure, Atlanta Falcons reporter: I haven't watched a lot of Cooks but from what I've observed, he's a tremendous young talent. So I asked for a little help on this question from Falcons secondary coach Marquand Manuel, who obviously has a better read on the situation than I do. "He's got multiple talents," Manuel said. He can play inside. He can play outside. He's got top-end speed. He can run routes. He's a combination, man. He's like a Percy Harvin on their offense, and you know they're pass-happy. You put him in different positions. You give him the ball on a jailbreak screen. You get him the ball straight down the field. I think he's one of those guys that you always make sure that you focus on." So would Manuel put Pro Bowl cornerback Desmond Trufant on Cooks? "Without a doubt," Manuel said. "But I've also got a guy in Robert Alford who can do the same thing." Cooks had nine catches for 63 yards, with one catch over 20 yards, in two games against the Falcons last season. We'll see if Trufant and Alford make life miserable for Cooks in 2016.
David Newton, Carolina Panthers reporter: Cooks was a player the Panthers coveted as a potential pick in 2014 because they considered him one of the best route runners and one of the most complete receivers in the draft. That being said, Carolina plays a lot of zone defense and won't sway from that to commit one player on Cooks at all times. That the secondary will be rebuilt with 2015 Pro Bowl corner Josh Norman gone lessens the likelihood a player will be committed to Cooks. Carolina was in zone coverage when Norman made the amazing interception on a pass to Cooks in the end zone to save a win in Charlotte last season. Carolina's philosophy is to disrupt the passing game with pressure on the quarterback. If Drew Brees doesn't have time to throw or a good pocket to step into, it doesn't matter how good Cooks is -- it'll be tough for the two to connect. Cooks had 13 catches for 183 yards in two games against the Panthers last season, but no touchdowns. The approach won't change.
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:28 am to blueslover
Thanks bro. 10 pages of brandincookem looming. frick you.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:56 am to blueslover
Interesting to note the Panthers wanted him in the draft. I didn't know that. Almost reason enough, in my opinion, to trade up and go get him.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:26 pm to blueslover
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. and an elusive open-field runner on shorter throws.
That is a lie!!
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:43 pm to blueslover
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16 TDs
Would fap myself raw
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:53 pm to Brandincookem
predict his stats for this year
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:17 pm to Lester Earl
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predict his stats for this year
Counting playoffs and super bowl?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:47 pm to Sparkplug#1
He averaged around 8.25 targets a game last year. I don't see him getting many more targets a game than that especially with an improved supporting cast on offense. However If he can increase his catch percentage on those targets his numbers could increase substantially.
84 completions on 129 targets means we are missing on 1 out of every 3 throws to Cooks. I think stressing offensive efficiency at every level is the key to a winning season.
Promising side is Cooks' collegiate production improved every year as he adjusted to NCAA competition. He has grown similarly in the pro game as well. I expect division rivals to have a much higher opinion of him this time next year after he goes in dry on them.
84 completions on 129 targets means we are missing on 1 out of every 3 throws to Cooks. I think stressing offensive efficiency at every level is the key to a winning season.
Promising side is Cooks' collegiate production improved every year as he adjusted to NCAA competition. He has grown similarly in the pro game as well. I expect division rivals to have a much higher opinion of him this time next year after he goes in dry on them.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:52 pm to partywiththelombardi
65% completion for that volume is extremely efficient, it is really hard to get much higher considering a lot of his receptions are not short dump offs. What he needs to improve on is making the first defender miss.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 5:05 pm to Lester Earl
99 catches 1340 yards with 12 tds
Posted on 6/27/16 at 5:53 pm to Brandincookem
That really is a lie though. he's pretty good, but there is hardly any wiggle in those hips. He utilizes str8 line speed.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 5:58 pm to DatNolaClap
So its not poor perception or a over exaggeration or poor research its a pure in your face straight up lie?
Interesting take yall have going.
Interesting take yall have going.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:36 pm to Brandincookem
I think it's an underutilization issue. We don't really use him on quick slants. He burned someone for a TD the one time I saw it last season. Otherwise, one or two reverses and that was about it outside of regular passing game to my memory.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:49 pm to DatNolaClap
Didn't he have pretty ridiculous quickness measurements including the test made to measure fluidity while changing direction?
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STRENGTHS
Light on his feet with terrific balance. Sinks his hips with ease and pops out of breaks to separate. Tracks and adjusts. Quick hands. Good concentration, body control and boundary awareness. Can turn a short throw into a long gain. Shows elusiveness, creativity and vision after the catch. Unafraid to play in the tall trees. Highly productive -- totaled 195 receptions for 2,881 yards (15.4-yard average) and 21 TDs in last two seasons. Confident and competitive. Has been exceptionally durable dating back to high school. Team captain. Will be a 21-year-old rookie.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:32 am to blueslover
Pretty sure him and Drew won me my fantasy league last year so I love the guy
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