re: Garic: Pats still trying to get Cooks with a 32

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Lots of smoke that Sean Payton all but confirmed too. That's the most I've heard him publicly comment about an internal situation before

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When was this? You mean the thing that he said that he says about any player when asked about them being traded? Because he has said the same exact thing before about players that were traded and ones that weren't.

He basically said we still plan on having him and love his skill set, but we are open to offers, which he's said time and again about several players.

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WTf is Cooks?

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A great deep threat with great hands

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He proved if he wasnt catching screen passes or deep balls recently, he pretty much disappeared

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He works the sidelines extremely well actually.

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dude. Really? Based on what, now?

Leave out where they were drafted

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Their actual production.

I've literally already stated all I need to walk out of this thread.

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i dont know how that relates to what you quoted.

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That Graham would garner more attention from the defense

But anyways, since I posted it late:

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lso consider they were still force feeding Jimmy Graham and Sproles/Pierre when Stills was here. Cooks has a much clearer path to targets in this offense the past two seasons.

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Ingram had more catches than PT in 2014
Thomas had more catches than Graham
Snead followed it up with 72 receptions himself
And Fleener with 50.

Graham, Colston, Cooks, and Thomas added up to 242 receptions in 2014.

They had 300 targets go their way

Thomas, Snead, Fleener, and Ingram totaled 260 receptions.

They had 365 targets go their way









In 2014, Cooks had 5.3 receptions/game, Stills had 4.2

Both played on the Saints btw

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Bone youre still in denial?

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More like everyone jumped the gun and tried to look for any little thing that said Cooks was evil and needs to be traded at all costs.

If we don't get at bare minimum pick 18 I'll shout how wrong I was, but I don't think we'd even do it for that.

If he's being traded it will be to our benefit. We own his rights for 3 years minimum (more if we tag him twice in a row). He's a very good player that works in our offense.

Only reason to trade him this year is if we get at least a Jimmy type deal.

Cooks and Pierre both missed time in 2014, had they not, Stills finishes 5th on the team in targets.


Their actual production isn't comparable when Cooks is seeing 120 targets a year. It's really not that hard bubba.

Dude, surely you remember 2014 when we unsuccessfully forced Cooks and the ball with passes behind the LOS until he got hurt?

I'd take their 1st, 5th and their WR Malcolm Mitchell as a deal for Cooks.

Apparently a lot if a 7 time SB winning coach is willing to part with his 1st round pick for him comparable to what the Saints got for Stills, which is, as you say just a 3rd round pick and Ellerbe.

But you know, feel free to disagree with a guy that knows and sees talent better than all of us but also 90 percent of the league.

Bill belichik wanting to trade for Cooks doesn't mean Cooks is better than Stills. That is a borderline silly point

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Cooks and Pierre both missed time in 2014, had they not, Stills finishes 5th on the team in targets.

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But they did both miss time....

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Their actual production isn't comparable when Cooks is seeing 120 targets a year. It's really not that hard bubba.

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You're right, it really isn't that hard. There is nothing to suggest that Stills can be a high volume guy.

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Lol. When your catch % goes from 75% to 45%. The difference btw Drew Brees vs Ryan Tannehill

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And somehow Matthews had over a 70% catch % with over 15 ypc in that same offense.

Parker also finished with a much higher catch %

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Bill belichik wanting to trade for Cooks doesn't mean Cooks is better than Stills. That is a borderline silly point

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How? So you're saying you're better at evaluating talent than BB? Gotcha, didn't know that.


If you honestly believe that Stills is just as good as Cooks then you just don't watch football.

How do you know how BB values Kenny Stills, nitwit? Do I really need to spell out how dumb your argument is?