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re: Frack RG:fixed for Raider's game winning drive, Giants drive fixed, too.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:39 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:39 pm to Lester Earl
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Did people miss all the PI fouls they had? Had to be close to 100 yards worth
They should have had more. They couldn't keep up with Cooks at all, do there strategy was to hold and grab him.
Hell, on one 3rd down, they had Jersey grabbed on both his hips with the ball in the air. No call
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:56 pm to Weekend Warrior79
Wow, that 3rd down holding call was awful.
Always love when a pre pass penalty comes 5 seconds after the play ends
The PI was closer than I remember. Ball is overthrown, yet the receiver is coming back into the defender and he has a right to his spot. That's a tough call in that situation
But that holding call was absolutely pathetic
Always love when a pre pass penalty comes 5 seconds after the play ends
The PI was closer than I remember. Ball is overthrown, yet the receiver is coming back into the defender and he has a right to his spot. That's a tough call in that situation
But that holding call was absolutely pathetic
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:58 pm to TigerBait1127
The officials would not have been a factor if the Saints don't allow a simple zone play up the middle to go to the house with the idiot millionaire safety we have who can't come up and make a tackle. How absurd is that to allow such a big play there.
That's when I knew the lead was not gonna last
That's when I knew the lead was not gonna last
Posted on 9/14/16 at 8:59 pm to Mrwhodat
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One year the Saints finished in a threeway tie at 10-6 with the 49ers and Rams. The Saints lost the tie breaker missing the playoffs. In a game refereed by Ben Dreith, he got into the face of fellow officials screaming at them to change calls on the field. The calls favoring the Saints were changed. The Saints went on to loose in a tight game, thereby missing the playoffs. This same ref made some nationally televised calls against some darling teams of the media. The big named announcers called for his firing that season. He was subsequently let go, quietly, in the off season. Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Link?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:07 pm to TigerBait1127
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They should have had more. They couldn't keep up with Cooks at all, do there strategy was to hold and grab him.
Hell, on one 3rd down, they had Jersey grabbed on both his hips with the ball in the air. No call
It seemed like the Raiders took a page out of the Seattle playbook. Hold an opponent's WR's on every play and they won’t call all of them. It does not matter how many penalties and yards the Raiders got called for, they got away with a lot more. It can be argued that some calls against the Raiders were tic tac, but they had clear hands on our WR's. The last two defensive penalties on the Saints were worse than tic tac, they bordered on the criminal.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:16 pm to jorconalx
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One year the Saints finished in a threeway tie at 10-6 with the 49ers and Rams. The Saints lost the tie breaker missing the playoffs. In a game refereed by Ben Dreith, he got into the face of fellow officials screaming at them to change calls on the field. The calls favoring the Saints were changed. The Saints went on to loose in a tight game, thereby missing the playoffs. This same ref made some nationally televised calls against some darling teams of the media. The big named announcers called for his firing that season. He was subsequently let go, quietly, in the off season. Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Link?
profootballreference
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:53 pm to hg
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The 4th down PI call when the ball was clearly out of bounds and uncatchable was the worst. Complete bullshite.
Right. We would have won. Saints did what they needed to do and the refs bailed them out TWICE on that drive.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:28 pm to lsutigers1992
On a 2nd down in the 1st quarter that might go unnoticed. In the 4th quarter with the game on the line and you're face guarding with contact, yeah 9/10. Some teams might get lucky. He didn't even look for the ball or make an effort to turn his head.
My first thought was "that was unwatchable, no PI" but then after seeing what happened a second time, it was the correct call whether we agree with the technicalities of definition of the penalty, it was called the way it's wrote up.
My first thought was "that was unwatchable, no PI" but then after seeing what happened a second time, it was the correct call whether we agree with the technicalities of definition of the penalty, it was called the way it's wrote up.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:20 am to theducks
It's not just rumors, there are paid trolls and useful idiots all over the internet.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:39 am to the_watcher
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The PI against Robertson on the final drive was absolutely awful. But so were the PI calls on the Raiders down the sidelines earlier in the game that directly led to a Saints scoring drive. Just because the call was on the last drive doesn't mean the game was fixed it just means the refs were consistent in being bad.
Truth, but it's a painful truth for many. It's so much easier to pull out a moral victory in claiming the fix was in.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:53 am to Mrwhodat
quote:Why the Saints though?
The game was fixed on the Raider's game winning drive.
And are any other teams part of the fix that the refs make calls against, or just the Saints?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:01 pm to shel311
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And are any other teams part of the fix that the refs make calls against, or just the Saints?
I think it's just against the Saints. the league does not want to see the team do too well, so they have the refs make sure we lose close games; yet, win just enough games to avoid having a really good draft picks.
If there really was a fix, there were a couple of close calls on Carr where they could have called late hits. And they would have thrown an flag for when the WR dropped the ball and the defender tossed him to the ground.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:35 pm to shel311
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Why the Saints though?
Queue the trolls. When you have billions of dollars at stake and you need to mitigate concussion lawsuits by establishing that players paid to injure each other, you reduce your liability and help sway public opinion. The Saints for the sake of argument were a very good small market, yet high profile sacrificial lamb. It was not personal, but a good business decision. CSP(Payton) and Saints management must, forever, be demonized to maintain the facade. The illusion that the team was successful by cheating is established.
Unfortunately, like the Raiders, when Al Davis was alive and sued the league, he was demonized and had the highest penalized team on a yearly basis. His death and a new regime has improved things.
It will take a similar change in ownership, management, and the entire coaching staff, before the demonization and bounty concussion era for the Saints to end.
We really do have a good coach, but, he did not placate himself and admit a theatrical wrong doing to help mitigate the concussion lawsuit issue. He is a good man, but has become a liability.
I will applaud the players' efforts in the face of the adversity. This is a business decision for all owners and teams. It is not personal. It is for profit. For we, the fans, we care nothing about what the owners make in profit. Saints fans just want a fair chance at seeing our team, win.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:17 pm to Mrwhodat
Are yall insane? The Raiders player actually touched the ball 
So, while getting pushed by our player, the Raider was still able to make contact with the ball, yet yall want the refs to say it was uncatchcable? Here is a still shot with the raiders player touching the ball with his right hand
So, while getting pushed by our player, the Raider was still able to make contact with the ball, yet yall want the refs to say it was uncatchcable? Here is a still shot with the raiders player touching the ball with his right hand This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:21 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:23 pm to Lester Earl
Thats as clear as the picture can be. But it is obvious he makes contact with the ball. Hell, watch the video posted on page 2
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:26 pm to lsupride87
Yea, while I don't like the call, I think that it is easily defendable from the refs standpoint. Still need to see it from a much better angle
The 3rd down holding call, however, looks like an awful call that came well after the play ended.
And the one I have the biggest problem with is the running play clock after the fumble play, if true
The 3rd down holding call, however, looks like an awful call that came well after the play ended.
And the one I have the biggest problem with is the running play clock after the fumble play, if true
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:27 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:This was a very bad call, agreed.
The 3rd down holding call, however, looks like an awful call that came well after the play ended.
I just think we actually made out better than the Raiders when it came to the calls during the game. And we were up double digits late in the 4th. The refs dont even register on my pissed off scale
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:31 pm to lsupride87
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And we were up double digits late in the 4th.
The lead was cut to 5 with ~12 minutes to go and tied to 8 minutes to go.
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The refs dont even register on my pissed off scale
Like I said, the timeout situation, if true, infuriates me personally. That is the kind of thing that is unacceptable.
The rest is just football
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:31 pm to lsupride87
yea i mean i know he touched the ball. But those pictures arent going to change anyone's mind
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