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Fla St K Roberto Aguayo declares early for draft
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:15 pm
Spend a 5th rounder on this guy and shore up the damn K spot for the next 12 years.
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Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:19 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
We had Hopkins who broke the record for career points in FBS history, if I recall correctly. And we let him go.
Also, I don't think I've ever seen a kicker declare early for the draft
Also, I don't think I've ever seen a kicker declare early for the draft
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:20 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Has never missed inside of 40 yards. If that stayed true in the NFL he defiantly worth a 5th.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:23 pm to philly444
Janikowski did.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:28 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
I would be absolutely okay drafting a kicker of his quality. A 5th would be better spent on a starting kicker than a practice squad/special teamer
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:36 pm to LSUZombie
How do you know Aguayo will be a starter? Kai Forbath was solid. Antonio Brown was a 5th rounder and he's the best WR in the game today. I wouldn't discredit 5th round picks to "practice squad/special team guys." Some of these guys perform. Green Bay's Center is a 5th round rookie and looks like a Veteran out there. I would hope we could get that lucky, but idk if drafting a kicker will automatically makes us a better team.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:42 pm to JustinT37
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How do you know Aguayo will be a starter? Kai Forbath was solid. Antonio Brown was a 5th rounder and he's the best WR in the game today. I wouldn't discredit 5th round picks to "practice squad/special team guys." Some of these guys perform. Green Bay's Center is a 5th round rookie and looks like a Veteran out there. I would hope we could get that lucky, but idk if drafting a kicker will automatically makes us a better team.
Kenny Stills was a 5th rounder
Carl Nicks was a 5th rounder
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:42 pm to saintsfan22
quote:Everybody made fun of the Raiders. They've had the same kicker the entire 2000s
Janikowski
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:43 pm to JustinT37
quote:
Kai Forbath was solid.
Kai was basically the same as Hocker.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:45 pm to htran90
quote:
a 5th rounder
Carl Nicks was a 5th rounder
So we definitely need to draft Aguayo then with our 5th round picks since it's so lucky.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:47 pm to JustinT37
I'm not discrediting a 5th rounder at all. I'm saying we need a good Kicker that badly and he will be the best this year and honestly has been the best in CFB the last few years.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:49 pm to eyeran
quote:
Everybody made fun of the Raiders.
Because it was retarded.
quote:
They've had the same kicker the entire 2000s
They could've gotten 8 years of Shaun Alexander who went two picks later. Give me that over a good kicker. Neil Rackers, a perfectly fine NFL kicker for years, went 150 picks after Sebas.
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:52 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
He's going late 3rd/early 4th round
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:53 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Drafting Aguayo alone probably gives us an additional 2 wins a year. I'd give a 5th in a heart beat. Maybe even a fourth if others are looking at him. I remember plenty of games where we lost cause of field goal kicking and ended up 2 wins shy of either playoffs or better seeding.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 11:55 pm to eyeran
quote:They drafted Lechler in the 5th round of that same draft. GOAT special teams draft.
Everybody made fun of the Raiders. They've had the same kicker the entire 2000s
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:10 am to Jamohn
Can't believe "inbeforeerxleben" hasn't been done. Don't draft kickers.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:33 am to Jamohn
In 16 seasons, Janikowski went:
6-6 1-19 Yards
103-106 20-29 Yards (97.2%)
113-125 30-39 Yards (90.4%)
111-151 40-49 Yards (73.5%)
52-92 50+ Yards (56.5%)
with a career long of 63
1st rounder
20 seasons of Vinatieri went:
10-10 1-19 yards
172-178 20-29 yards (96.6%)
153-181 30-39 yards (84.5%)
141-183 40-49 yards (77.1%)
27-46 50+ Yards (58.7%)
career long of 57
UDFA
10 seasons of Gostkowski went:
3-3 1-19 yards
84-88 20-29 yards (95.5%)
98-108 30-39 yards (90.7%)
74-95 40-49 yards (77.9%)
17-22 50+ yards (77.3%)
career long of 57
4th rounder
sometimes you can find them, sometimes its worth that 4th rounder man.
6-6 1-19 Yards
103-106 20-29 Yards (97.2%)
113-125 30-39 Yards (90.4%)
111-151 40-49 Yards (73.5%)
52-92 50+ Yards (56.5%)
with a career long of 63
1st rounder
20 seasons of Vinatieri went:
10-10 1-19 yards
172-178 20-29 yards (96.6%)
153-181 30-39 yards (84.5%)
141-183 40-49 yards (77.1%)
27-46 50+ Yards (58.7%)
career long of 57
UDFA
10 seasons of Gostkowski went:
3-3 1-19 yards
84-88 20-29 yards (95.5%)
98-108 30-39 yards (90.7%)
74-95 40-49 yards (77.9%)
17-22 50+ yards (77.3%)
career long of 57
4th rounder
sometimes you can find them, sometimes its worth that 4th rounder man.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:00 am to htran90
Kickers are just weird so you never know. Henery was the last big time college kicker and he's out of the league now.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:04 am to SuperSoakher
quote:
Drafting Aguayo alone probably gives us an additional 2 wins a year.
I think you're overestimating this. Some mathematicians did a study a few years back that basically argues that the difference between the 1st and 32nd best K is pretty minimal, and they generally fluctuate from year to year as well. I haven't been able to get access to it, but the basics of it seem to make sense. One thing you could argue is that FG accuracy has improved significantly over even the past decade, so your average FG kicker's value has probably picked up a little bit. Still not worth forgoing that pick IMO. Saints have a lot of needs right now, we are better served placing our bets on a diamond in the rough FCS OG or something.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:06 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:16 am to saintsfan22
quote:
Kickers are just weird so you never know. Henery was the last big time college kicker and he's out of the league now.
Just seemed to regress every year like Hartley...
4 years total:
24/27 88.9% year 1 (missed 2 30s, 1 50+)
27/31 87.1% year 2 (missed 1 20s, 1 30s, 1 40s, 1 50+)
23/28 82.1% year 3 (missed 1 30s, 3 40s, 1 50s)
1/5 20.0% year 4 (missed 2 40s, 2 50+, 1 hit 50)
Although to be honest the 15th ranked kicker is mid 80s.
all of ours were below that.
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