re: Ever since Drew signs for 100 mil and 60 mil guaranteed...

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How can we field a team with quality players if we have no money to pay??

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Per Overthecap, the top contracts for QBs are:

A Rodgers: $22M/yr
R Wilson: $21.9M
Roethlisberger: $21.85M
Eli: $21M
Rivers: $20.8125M
Newton: $20.76M
Ryan: $20.75M
Flacco: $20.1M
Brees: $20M

So Brees is 9th on the list and 3 QBs higher than him are on undefeated teams so far this season. Something tells me the size of Brees' contract is not the issue.

You mean he wasn't worth the money y'all paid him. On paper, yes it was trade rape. In reality, the Saints defense got better and the offense took a huge step back. Jimmy Graham was a 100% lock hall of fame TE in yalls system. Seattle can't replicate his production, but the Saints can't replace his production either.

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But you can't ignore the fact that Matt Ryan is playing LEAPS and BOUNDS better than brees

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Then you also should not ignore the fact that the Dirty Birds were pretty bad for a couple years (with Ryan as their QB) and drafted a stud offensive line man and other good young players.

Ryan: 6 TDs 4 Ints 90.6 rating. 64.9 comp %

Brees: 6 TDs 3 Ints 93.8 rating. 66.6 comp %




The difference isn't Ryan playing better, it's him having better players around him. I'd kill for Brees to have a Julio.

Thanks for the 429th thread on this same beat to death topic.

Ok, i hear you guy. Now give me an alternative solution that would of kept us competative? Oh wait, you dont have one

And you want to put it all on Brees contract?

Nearly every team has a 100 million dollar qb these days.. any teams that actually want to compete..

The Saints have missed badly via draft and free agency. Period.

To me it goes more back towards the Bounty Gate BS which started the losing mentality and loss of a couple of draft picks.. then a whole year off of coaching for Payton. We did have one decent year after it, but still haven't been the same since..

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I'm not saying it can't or won't happen

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I am. Being a dynasty is hard. Back in 2009 after the SB win, if you were asked to guess if the odds were better than 50% or worse than 50% that the Saints would still be title contenders after 5+ years what would you have guessed? This is how it was always most likely to go. Maybe had Bountygate not happened the coaching wouldn't have gone to hell and maybe they'd have been more on top of problems like the poor drafting and made the Ireland move a year sooner, all of that certainly would help, not to mention having those stolen draft picks back, but would the Saints really be true contenders right now? Was that ever in the cards 6 years after their first SuperBowl?

If my job title included gm for the saints or something of that nature then I would. The issue is that there are a lot of issues, too many to count. Brees isn't the only problem but it sure would help to be able to pay other good players but we just keep hoping we find some late round draft jewels and get lucky with veteran free agent signings

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Maybe by not trading away their best offensive weapon

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I agree that this shouldn't have been necessary, but our drafts had been so bad that we needed major help at multiple positions

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Serious question, if Graham hadn't been traded, do y'all think y'all still would have taken Peat with the first pick? Or would have moved back for a defensive player?

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I can't even pretend to know what this FO thinks in the draft. We ignore C for years then trade our 2nd best player for one. Then we trade another receiver and draft none

Then we think we're going all in on the run game, and completely ignore Guard