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re: Curtis Lofton Restructures Contract

Posted on 2/16/13 at 1:06 am to
Posted by monroesaintsfan
monroe
Member since Feb 2010
309 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 1:06 am to
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This. Payton is saying all the right things about the leader of the defense for the past 5 years. He's too soft for an ILB and too slow for OLB in a 3-4. He won't be on the team next year except possibly as a vet min backup.


This. Which might happen since he may not even be offered the vet min with another team on the open market. Even at the min he'd still make a killing with all of his guaranteed money.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 6:07 am to
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You can convert whatever the frick you want into a signing bonus. Roster bonus, base salary, MAYBE even a given year's prorated signing bonus (no team would ever be in such a bad position to even have to do that).



I remember hearing about some rule in the CBA that restricts when and how you can restructure certain parts of contracts, which helps prevent teams from abusing the cap. That's what I'm talking about.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16692 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:07 am to
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I'm pretty sure I would have sex with Mickey Loomis


What you mean to say is, you're pretty sure you'd let Mickey Loomis have sex with you.
Posted by Farva
Member since May 2009
789 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:23 am to
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Lofton was a quasi-legit possibility at being cut (would save $2.6m)


No. Not even a little.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:17 am to
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I remember hearing about some rule in the CBA that restricts when and how you can restructure certain parts of contracts, which helps prevent teams from abusing the cap. That's what I'm talking about.

The bigest is that you cannot restructure per se in the last year of a contract- like Vilma. You can cut him and sign him back in a new deal though. His $8.6mil cap hit is completely unworkable. I've been a big Vilma fan since he arrived. Dunno if he can be worth the vet minimum approaching a million in a 3-4 tho
Posted by monroesaintsfan
monroe
Member since Feb 2010
309 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:05 pm to
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Dunno if he can be worth the vet minimum approaching a million in a 3-4 tho


This is the gist of the Vilma argument imo. I don't think any team, even 4-3 teams, will offer him any more than the min. So if the Saints wanted him he probably would come back for that.

But do they really want him back? It's not like he was much more than average in his prime in a 3-4. And his prime days are far in the past.

Maybe Payton wasn't blowing smoke when he talked about him fitting in, though. I guess we'll see.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:12 pm to
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anyone else starting to think will smith takes a deal like this for one more season here?



taking the money upfront? Yea, I think he'd take that deal
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49486 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:20 pm to
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I remember hearing about some rule in the CBA that restricts when and how you can restructure certain parts of contracts, which helps prevent teams from abusing the cap. That's what I'm talking about.



You can't really abuse the cap, you can only make this year's problem into future problems.

Base salary can absolutely be converted into signing bonus. Brady did it last year:
LINK

Brees is definitely going to do it this year.
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