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re: Cardell Hayes Trial (Will Smith murder) Thread... Testimony underway

Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Fuller: gunshot residue test was done on Smith's hands, correct? Bachelder: Yes. At autopsy.


Results?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:57 pm to
Bachelder: Not sure since his job was to investigate scene.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:57 pm to
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CJ Mordock ?@CJMordock
John Fuller asks for subpoena of NOPD chief Michael Harrison
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
Bachelder's answer, after overruled state objection, is met with scoffs from Cardell Hayes' supporters. Bailiff demands order in court
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Bachelder: Not sure since his job was to investigate scene.

gonna have to wait until the coroner comes up
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
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John Fuller asks for subpoena of NOPD chief Michael Harrison




Denied........ This dude is a POS
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate Fuller's cross at this point is portraying the NOPD investigation as rushed and favorable to Smith because Smith was famous and Hayes wasn't


Sounds like this board at the time

"Smith didn't hit Hayes vehicle" and "smith didn't have a gun in his car"

How many posters treated those as facts?
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:59 pm to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
Det.: "Glovebox could have opened at impact."
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:00 pm to
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Denied........ This dude is a POS

judge actually told Fuller to go fill out the paperwork
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:01 pm to
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Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde
Fuller suggests glovebox could've been opened for "nefarious reasons," such as tampering with the scene.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:07 pm to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
Prior to indictment, did you learn that Will Smith had been to Barcadia or Ruth's Chris? Or Sake Cafe? Ans.:" No I did not"

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
Fuller is attacking NOPD. He has some facts to work with. No search warrant for Sake Cafe video, which we know was taped over 4 days later.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:09 pm to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
Prior to indictment, did you learn that Will Smith had been to Barcadia or Ruth's Chris? Or Sake Cafe? Ans.:" No I did not"


thats messed up. we all knew on here what went down. How would an investigator on a murder case not know these things when it was public knowledge?
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:09 pm to
I don't see how any of that is even relevant.

Its more "LOOK OVER HERE".

The ONLY things that matter are the 30 seconds leading up to the shooting. That's it.

Everything else is slight of hand.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:11 pm to
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I don't see how any of that is even relevant.

Its more "LOOK OVER HERE".

The ONLY things that matter are the 30 seconds leading up to the shooting. That's it.

Everything else is slight of hand.

this is really the only card he has... shotty investigation... and this is the main witness he has to use it on
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:11 pm to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
Fuller: "How much time do you have to react in a life or death situation. Ans. : "I would say seconds"
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate
Fuller: a couple of steps, right? Bachelder: Yes. Fuller again attacks NOPD for not doing enough to probe Smith's state of mind before ...
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
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Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde
Fuller: what's the difference between .22 and .45 caliber? Which might do more damage?

Bachelder: Difference is size. .45 more destructive.


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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate
Bachelder, during cross: No air bags deployed in the cars being driven by Jonathan Whipple or Will Smith before shooting.

Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate
Defense attorney John Fuller has detective say this after the state has portrayed Hayes' rear-ending of Smith as violent and intentional.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:19 pm to
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate
Bachalder tells Fuller he isn't sure whether the bullets recovered from Will Smith matched those which wounded his wife.

Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde
Fuller asks if there are tests to determine if bullets that hit Smith's wife are same as from his gun.

Bachelder: not sure if test was done

Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate
Background for this question: the defense does not seem to have conceded that Cardell Hayes shot Racquel Smith.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate
Bachalder tells Fuller he isn't sure whether the bullets recovered from Will Smith matched those which wounded his wife.
Wow. Really? That would be huge news if they dont match.

IF
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by rt3
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Wow. Really? That would be huge news if they dont match.

IF

something tells me we already know the 1st question the ADA's will ask the ME when s/he is called to testify
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