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Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:20 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Absolutely
We cut roman and will smith, then spend the money saved on guys to replace them?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:20 pm to Lester Earl
I doubt we're cutting Roman. I think Smith and Vilma are real possibilities, but I'm not sure how much the staff were counting on them anyway.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:20 pm to Lester Earl
The sense comes when you upgrade the talent thus production
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:22 pm to Chad504boy
And that too. 
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:24 pm to Lester Earl
wat
How does that not make sense if you get a younger, cheaper, and better option?
How does that not make sense if you get a younger, cheaper, and better option?
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:28 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
We cut roman and will smith, then spend the money saved on guys to replace them?
Not sure that makes sense
I never said that, Les.
I'm one of the few that thinks Roman will be in a better spot considering Ryan's scheme. He will be asked to play close to the line more, and that's his best attribute, playing more like a rover. Fine with him being here because of this, but his contract must be adjusted.
For Smith, his contract sucks balls. He obviously has to take way less. Still curious as to what exactly will happen with him.
But if neither are willing to take significantly less, along with Vilma, then adios.
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:30 pm to CocoLoco
Here's a list of some of the other contracts that have not been restructured (yet):
Drew Brees -- $17.4 million
Will Smith -- $14.5 million
Jonathan Vilma -- $8.6 million
Roman Harper -- $7.1 million
Jabari Greer -- $5.4 million
Brodrick Bunkley -- $4.7 million
Lance Moore -- $4.47 million
Malcolm Jenkins -- $3.9 million
Darren Sproles -- $3.75 million
Pierre Thomas -- $2.5 million
Zach Strief -- $2.28 million
Patrick Robinson -- $2.25 million
Cam Jordan -- $2.1 million
Mark Ingram -- $2 million
Will Herring -- $1.9 million
Chris Chamberlain -- $1.45 million
Drew Brees -- $17.4 million
Will Smith -- $14.5 million
Jonathan Vilma -- $8.6 million
Roman Harper -- $7.1 million
Jabari Greer -- $5.4 million
Brodrick Bunkley -- $4.7 million
Lance Moore -- $4.47 million
Malcolm Jenkins -- $3.9 million
Darren Sproles -- $3.75 million
Pierre Thomas -- $2.5 million
Zach Strief -- $2.28 million
Patrick Robinson -- $2.25 million
Cam Jordan -- $2.1 million
Mark Ingram -- $2 million
Will Herring -- $1.9 million
Chris Chamberlain -- $1.45 million
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:33 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:
Jabari Greer -- $5.4 million
quote:
Brodrick Bunkley -- $4.7 million
Definitely see these 2 getting restructured.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:37 pm to CocoLoco
quote:How many defensive coordinators do we have to fire before we find one that makes Roman Harper look good?
I'm one of the few that thinks Roman will be in a better spot considering Ryan's scheme. He will be asked to play close to the line more, and that's his best attribute, playing more like a rover.
He's played in 3 systems in his career and looked terrible in a ll 3, this will be his 4th. He needs to go.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:45 pm to eyeran
He looked pretty good under Williams actually, the guy made the pro bowl.
When asked to cover, like he was with Spags, he will do pretty bad. But, as far as playing the run and being close to the line/blitzing, he is a very good safety. He will be asked to do a lot of this in this scheme, even more so than with Gregg.
When asked to cover, like he was with Spags, he will do pretty bad. But, as far as playing the run and being close to the line/blitzing, he is a very good safety. He will be asked to do a lot of this in this scheme, even more so than with Gregg.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:50 pm to CocoLoco
quote:He was bad under Gregg Williams too. Sharper and turnovers covered up a ton of garbage. The defense ranked at the bottom of the league the Superbowl season.
He looked pretty good under Williams actually, the guy made the pro bowl.
quote:
When asked to cover, like he was with Spags, he will do pretty bad. But, as far as playing the run and being close to the line/blitzing, he is a very good safety.
Sounds suspiciously like a linebacker. Unfortunately he's been our starting safety for 7 years.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:53 pm to eyeran
True, but guys like Will Smith getting stonewalled when they rush the passer doesn't help out Harper's cause any either. I'm tired of seeing Smith get the bulk of the snaps up front.
He can still do a decent job stopping the run at times. He seemed to play well against Atlanta and Tampa Bay but other than that, he didn't do much. He might do better in this new 3-4 defense but I'd rather see somebody else win that job.
He can still do a decent job stopping the run at times. He seemed to play well against Atlanta and Tampa Bay but other than that, he didn't do much. He might do better in this new 3-4 defense but I'd rather see somebody else win that job.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:55 pm to eyeran
I think jenkins is the worse of the two, but harper needs to take a pay cut. he's obviously a big liability in this defense and he got rewarded with too big of a contract.
As far as I'm concerned
jordan-bunkley-hicks
(1st rounder)-lofton-hawthorne-tez/galette
make up a dependable front 7 imo. If we're what, 2m over the cap right now, cutting vilma/will smith gives us 14m to play with..man!
As far as I'm concerned
jordan-bunkley-hicks
(1st rounder)-lofton-hawthorne-tez/galette
make up a dependable front 7 imo. If we're what, 2m over the cap right now, cutting vilma/will smith gives us 14m to play with..man!
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:00 pm to eyeran
quote:
He was bad under Gregg Williams too.
He was ballin' in 10' minus the playoffs, and then he got his big contract.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:01 pm to LooseCannon22282
quote:Yeah, it definitely doesn't help a bad secondary when your front 4 has been just a bad.
True, but guys like Will Smith getting stonewalled when they rush the passer doesn't help out Harper's cause any either. I'm tired of seeing Smith get the bulk of the snaps up front.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:02 pm to eyeran
quote:
How many defensive coordinators do we have to fire before we find one that makes Roman Harper look good?
F'ing well said!
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:04 pm to goatmilker
I honestly don't have a problem with Roman playing SS, but we damn sure paid him too much, and he has to be used right.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:08 pm to eyeran
quote:
Sounds suspiciously like a linebacker. Unfortunately he's been our starting safety for 7 years.
It is similar, it is basically a rover. Like I said, he is good when playing closer to the line. He did this very well in 09 (made the pro bowl), and in 2011 he led all of the NFL Safeties in sacks. He had 7.5 for the 2011 season, along with 2 forced fumbles. In 2010, the Saints defense was ranked in the top 5, believe it or not. He had 3 sacks and 6 forced fumbles that season.
I will not dispute the fact that he is awful in coverage, but he does do some things well, and Ryan's scheme works towards his strengths.
If he won't restructure, then I'd be fine with a cut.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:10 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:I do because he's only good at half of his job.
I honestly don't have a problem with Roman playing SS,
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