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DIGGY
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Member since Nov 2012
997 posts

Archie Manning

My father was a huge Archie fan and always claimed that with more talent around him the Saints could have done so much more. I always thought that he would have been the weak link on a more talented team and results would have been the same as they had during the teams most successful years during this tenure. I think the most talent during this tenure was during the 78-79 seasons, especially on offense. Defense was never good. During those years, 78-79, Archie threw for 32 touchdowns and 36 interceptions. He also had 12 fumbles. He did throw for over 3,000 yards and over 60% completion percentage. But I always thought he gave away too many possessions to the other team with turnovers. Great team spokesman. Saint forever. But serviceable at best. Would never have "led" the Saints to sustained success, no matter the talent level. Ok, bash away


Chad504boy
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Greenbriar WV
Member since Feb 2005
91575 posts

re: Archie Manning
Archie u drunk go to bed


Big Sway
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Member since Nov 2009
2068 posts

re: Archie Manning
Most posters were not even born then. I was, and yes I concur!


jorconalx
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alexandria
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re: Archie Manning
you and the op are high or idiots.


Fox Mulder
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Member since Dec 2010
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re: Archie Manning
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Archie Manning




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goatmilker
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you and the op are high or idiots or TD employees.


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Kafka
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Jul 2007
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re: Archie Manning
He was the NFC Player of the Year so I'd say he was more than serviceable


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DIGGY
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Member since Nov 2012
997 posts

re: Archie Manning
Great argument there Chief! Hard to argue those stats


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GrantTheFan
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
293 posts

re: Archie Manning
I was a big Archie fan as a kid. Keep in mind, it was a completely different game. 90 - 95% of plays were run from a two wide receiver, one tight end, power I formation. The passing game was designed to stretch the field, Bill Walsh was in the early stages of introducing the West Coast, dink and dunk high percentage scheme. The cornerbacks played bump and run and a 50% completion percentage was actually considered pretty good. And as mobile as he was, the horrible offensive line gave up over 40 sacks per year. NFL player of the year, pro bowler in '78 and '79. Much, much better than serviceable, imo.


CaliforniaTiger
LSU Fan
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
3828 posts

re: Archie Manning
Archie was tough, I will always love him!


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BarbeTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Jan 2012
5962 posts

re: Archie Manning
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DIGGY


What was it like living in Run's House?


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Sho Nuff
New Orleans Saints Fan
Hawaii
Member since Feb 2009
7052 posts

re: Archie Manning
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He was the NFC Player of the Year so I'd say he was more than serviceable

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you and the op are high or idiots.


TailgateTiger
LSU Fan
Bullard, Texas
Member since Oct 2008
763 posts

re: Archie Manning
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Archie u drunk go to bed




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Rougarou4lsu
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
1701 posts

re: Archie Manning
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He was the NFC Player of the Year so I'd say he was more than serviceable
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you and the op are high or idiots



Or both


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DIGGY
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2012
997 posts

re: Archie Manning
Good post. But 32 touchdowns to 36 interceptions and 12 fumbles during 78-79?? With passing targets like Chandler, Harris, Childs, Galbreath, even Muncie and running threats like Galbreath and Muncie (even with his demons)? Line had an aging Dobler, Zander's, and John Hill as center. Just always thought that his game would have been elevated in the turnover department with weapons to take the "heat off" of him. Who finished second to his player of the year award??


hellsu
LSU Fan
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
325 posts

re: Archie Manning
Your father was correct.


DIGGY
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2012
997 posts

re: Archie Manning
Respected, but like my fathers opinion based on pure conjecture. When the talent was there on offense, the turnovers were the same.


hellsu
LSU Fan
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
325 posts

re: Archie Manning
He did have some offensive weapons but for the most part year in year out he had no protection. The line play was awful.It was common knowledge that it affected his release and trajectory of his passes especially the later part of his saints career and in minnesota. Roger Staubach mentioned in an interview once that the sky would have been the limit if he would have had a decent line in front of him. Dallas was in the same division with them at the time.


DIGGY
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2012
997 posts

re: Archie Manning
Like me and my father we will just have to agree to disagree. I attended the San Diego game that followed the Monday night Oakland second half meltdown. If I recall, the Chargers won 35-7. I think the Saints were 7-6 going into the Raiders game. Still had a lot to accomplish after that. Just too seldomly saw him as the focal point raise the team when needed.


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MetryTyger
LSU Fan
Metairie, LA
Member since Jan 2004
11147 posts

re: Archie Manning
I compare Archie in N.O. to Steve Young in Tampa Bay.
Young did not have great numbers was was 'literally' running for his life in Tampa.
All of a sudden in Frisco he became a hall-of-fame QB.
I'm not saying Archie would have accomplished the same thing in Frisco...or Dallas...or L.A.....or Green Bay; but he sure would have had a chance to.

BTW, Archie very nearly led the Saints to the playoffs in '78 and '79 anyway,DESPITE the horrid defense, and with your average I formation offenses (albeit loaded with skill players).

I maintain that even Joe Montana would have been "serviceable" on those Saints teams.


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