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And I as LAUGHED AT when I said M. Thomas will be the #4 receiver in the league
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:46 pm
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:08 pm to breauxmosexual
To be fair, you said a ton of dumb shite all year, so....
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:10 pm to breauxmosexual
just to waste your time...you never said that.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:12 pm to breauxmosexual
Idk how they got these numbers but it ranks Cole Beasley ahead of Antonio Brown. Reason number 1 million not to put too much stock in football stats and analytics.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:17 pm to apfour21
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Idk how they got these numbers but it ranks Cole Beasley ahead of Antonio Brown. Reason number 1 million not to put too much stock in football stats and analytics
this
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:20 pm to LSU1SLU
Just looked at it some more. Odell ranked at 29th so yea this is a bunch of nonsense.
Also Tavon Austin apparently has a -220 DYAR. I don't even know what that means but that doesn't seem good.
Also Tavon Austin apparently has a -220 DYAR. I don't even know what that means but that doesn't seem good.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:25 pm to breauxmosexual
Nelson & A Brown have more receptions, yards, TDs, and less fumbles and are ranked lower than M Thomas bc this site has an overly complex formula in order to "better judge" a player.
And given the range that M Thomas ranks over them, my guess is they grossly overrate some arbitrary number just so they can have something different
A Brown: 106 rec, 1,284 yds, 12TDs, 1 fumble
Nelson: 97 rec, 1,257 yds, 14 TDs, 1 fumble
M Thomas: 92 rec, 1,137 yds, 9 TDs, 2 fumbles
They all had 2 drops
Yet, I am suppose to believe that Nelson ranks 13% below Thomas & Brown ranks 36% below Thomas
And given the range that M Thomas ranks over them, my guess is they grossly overrate some arbitrary number just so they can have something different
A Brown: 106 rec, 1,284 yds, 12TDs, 1 fumble
Nelson: 97 rec, 1,257 yds, 14 TDs, 1 fumble
M Thomas: 92 rec, 1,137 yds, 9 TDs, 2 fumbles
They all had 2 drops
Yet, I am suppose to believe that Nelson ranks 13% below Thomas & Brown ranks 36% below Thomas
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:34 pm to apfour21
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Also Tavon Austin apparently has a -220 DYAR. I don't even know what that means but that doesn't seem good.
i lol'd ..I dont either
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:37 pm to Weekend Warrior79
There is also no way to account for coverage, double teams, who it was against, or any of the other variables of the play. Comparing stats for football players is stupid.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:11 pm to breauxmosexual
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:31 pm to breauxmosexual
Beasley is a top 5 WR huh? People are still laughing at you.
M. Thomas was not a top 5 WR this year.
He will be, but he wasn't this year.
M. Thomas was not a top 5 WR this year.
He will be, but he wasn't this year.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:42 pm to breauxmosexual
Football Outsiders is good for overall units (offense and defense) but tends to be poo for individual players.
It's the NFL's version of BMI.
It's the NFL's version of BMI.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:45 pm to breauxmosexual
These threads are great because they always end with pages of posts from the regulars apologizing to the OP and lauding his brilliance
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:56 pm to LSUZombie
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:07 pm to breauxmosexual
You also said we would go undefeated for the remainder of the season, EVERY WEEK!
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:40 pm to breauxmosexual
10-6 anyone???
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:55 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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And given the range that M Thomas ranks over them, my guess is they grossly overrate some arbitrary number just so they can have something different
If the OP would have actually read the stat, you can see why high volume receivers would get punished:
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Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement. This gives the value of the performance on plays where this WR caught the ball, compared to replacement level, adjusted for situation and opponent and then translated into yardage.
the website and stat doesn't claim what OP claims.
It also adjusts adjusts for defense, and the Saints played the Broncos and Seahawks secondaries. The difference is that Thomas has Cooks and Snead to take pressure off him in these games.
Also from the website:
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We cannot yet fully separate the performance of a receiver from the performance of his quarterback. Be aware that one will affect the other.
Not many other QBs can make that back shoulder throw with perfection consistently like Brees can. One of the reasons they are effective together.
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These statistics measure only passes thrown to a receiver, not performance on plays when he is not thrown the ball, such as blocking and drawing double teams.
One thing I really like about Football Outsiders is that they are aware of the flaws in their analytics. It is a good source for information, but isn't meant to be used idiotically like the OP used it.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:11 pm to TigerBait1127
What about pancake blocks and recovering fumbles? If it included that stuff Thomas would be #1! He very frequently was followed by the teams #1 corner
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:24 pm to breauxmosexual
That whole list looks pretty fricky.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 4:07 pm to LSUZombie
quote:Well done
These threads are great because they always end with pages of posts from the regulars apologizing to the OP and lauding his brilliance
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