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What is the Peli Talk opinion on Davis taking 3's?

Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:22 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:22 am
What do y'all think about Davis taking 3s going forward?

Personally I'd like him to attempt 2-3 treys per game. Obviously I don't want him to fall in love with the 3, but he's shooting at a decent clip from long range so far this season.

So what do yall think? A couple of attempts sprinkled in, or focus solely on getting midrange and paint shots?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:25 am to
I think most of the attempts he's taken this year have been good. He's really too good of a rebounder to have him camped in the corner often, but the one he nailed last night on a bit of a broken play where he just happened to be standing there when Ish passed it to him was great. Leave AD unguarded anywhere on the court at your own peril NBA.
Posted by novowels
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:30 am to
I like it as something he is able to do. When plays break down, when he's sitting there wide open for one reason or another. Plus having him as a threat to make an outside shot will bring defenders out to the perimeter. I like those aspects of it more so than actually designing plays to try to get him 3's.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:48 am to
I like it if its a good shot, 2 attempts a game 36.4% shot is serviceable.

He needs that to be closer to 40% and his attempts to stay the same, any more and he becomes too much like Kevin Love 2011-present. I like the Kevin Love of 2010 more, 20.2/15.2/2.5, but shot only 2.9 times a game from 3 and hit 41.7%
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:46 am to
I feel like guys like Chris bosh and love were better players before they got enamored with jacking up 3s. Not really sure how much it lends to their games

I have no statistical evidence to back that up
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I feel like guys like Chris bosh and love were better players before they got enamored with jacking up 3s. Not really sure how much it lends to their games



I agree.

Obviously I don't want AD looking to take 5 or 6 3 attempts per game, but are the Pels better served with him taking 2 or 3 attempts per game, or zero?
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 12:36 pm to
quote:


I feel like guys like Chris bosh and love were better players before they got enamored with jacking up 3s. Not really sure how much it lends to their games

I have no statistical evidence to back that up

Im in agreeance with you Mr. Sandberg.

Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I think most of the attempts he's taken this year have been good. He's really too good of a rebounder to have him camped in the corner often, but the one he nailed last night on a bit of a broken play where he just happened to be standing there when Ish passed it to him was great. Leave AD unguarded anywhere on the court at your own peril NBA.


This. I love that he can do it and stepping back to take a couple keeps defense's honest. That said, he spent way too much time out there early in the season. It looks like the staff has adjusted and he is back to operating from his comfort zone, which is still a step or two away from a 3.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

I like it if its a good shot, 2 attempts a game 36.4% shot is serviceable.

He needs that to be closer to 40% and his attempts to stay the same, any more and he becomes too much like Kevin Love 2011-present. I like the Kevin Love of 2010 more, 20.2/15.2/2.5, but shot only 2.9 times a game from 3 and hit 41.7%



Where to start with this?

36.4 3P% = 1.092 points per FGA

quote:

He needs that to be closer to 40% and his attempts to stay the same, any more and he becomes too much like Kevin Love 2011-present.


40% is closing in on elite, so expecting that is too much. Also, that and an ability to rebound are the only things similar about his game and Love's game.

quote:

I like the Kevin Love of 2010 more, 20.2/15.2/2.5, but shot only 2.9 times a game from 3 and hit 41.7%


Again, Love is a totally different player. I agree that 2-3 attempts beyond the arch is probably as high as I want him going. He is a much better roll man than Love.

Love is closer to Ryno than AD.
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
1312 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 3:02 pm to
I like about 2.5 att a game from Ad from downtown. What he needs to cut down on is the contested midrange shots. Ideally, he should shoot 3-4 less midrange shots a game and take it strong to the basket or pass.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

I like about 2.5 att a game from Ad from downtown. What he needs to cut down on is the contested midrange shots. Ideally, he should shoot 3-4 less midrange shots a game and take it strong to the basket or pass.

That would put him shooting about 2 shots per game beyond 10 feet, not including 3s.
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:34 pm to
Good.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2938 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:59 pm to
No one can block his shot and he is shooting 16+ ft away. He is making enough to not get pissed but why not have him down low shooting over people?
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:18 pm to
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No one can block his shot and he is shooting 16+ ft away. He is making enough to not get pissed but why not have him down low shooting over people?


There are lots of people in the NBA that can block his shot on the post. Also, being on the block doesn't equal an easy shot. It's a lot easier to double down there and also easier to get into a shooter's body. He will receive passes with his back to the basket. Without a honed pivot move or drop step, he can't get turned around to shoot effectively.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:56 pm to
He's hitting them at a great clip, the NBA game's recent history suggests this is a very, very wise move.

His scoring average will shoot up, his efficiency might go down, but it makes him that much harder to defend. Once guys need to get right up on him...he can drive by them and make a pass.

Makes him a more complete implement of domination.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:11 pm to
I'm all in favor if they go in.

I however disapprove if they do not.
Posted by Jester
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34245 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:39 pm to
He needs to at least get a shot up. Occasional lobs aren't enough.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:45 pm to
He should shoot 15 tonight. frick it.
Posted by eddieray
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Member since Mar 2006
18019 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:42 pm to
If I'm coaching against Davis, the only place I'm not terrified of him is behind the arc. I think it crazy, unless he gets an really open one, in rhythm.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:11 pm to
I like it because it forces defenses to respect him both outside and in. That opens up the floor some
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