re: Tim Frazier tendered his QO, now Restricted

Any idea of how much the MLE will be this year? I don't think it's tied to the average player salary anymore, but surely it will increase quite a bit.

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Any idea of how much the MLE will be this year? I don't think it's tied to the average player salary anymore, but surely it will increase quite a bit.

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It doesn't rise with the cap. I thin k it is $5.6M

So who gets the bigger contract Ish or Frazier?

Frickingggg mind blowing

Is there a larger back up PG farm in all of the league over the last several seasons then the Pelicans haha? It's pretty crazy when you sit back and look at it:

Darren Collison
Grevis Vasquez
Brian Roberts
Austin Rivers
Ish Smith
Tim Frazier

And sort of revitalized the careers of

Tony Douglas
Norris Cole
Jarret Jack

Nothing incredible but guys that have stuck around now and gotten decent contracts given where they came in at. Just wish we could find one SF gem instead of mostly big men and guards.

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Darren Collison
Grevis Vasquez
Brian Roberts
Austin Rivers
Ish Smith
Tim Frazier

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Dont forget:
Bobby Jackson
Speedy Claxton
Jarrett Jack
Jerryd Bayless

Agreed.

If there is one thing we have figured out as an organization it's how to scout backup point guards.

Frankly if I were a team like Milwaukee I would be trying to bug our scouting offices or poach some of our scouts lol.

Good. He's not the perfect "Gentry System" PG because he doesn't have the shooting ability to stetch the defense out but he fits every other checkbox.

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To me, more than anything, that says that you should never pay for a backup guard. If Frazier gets a solid, multi year offer-- bye, bye. Next guy will be on his way for the minimum and will do just fine

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I agree. We basically picked him off the scrap heap and stuck him into a makeshift roster at the end of the year. We can find someone else if he gets an offer too high.

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Idk about that. We've seen the importance in having a capable backup PG. GS's bench is killer in large part due to Livingston being one of the bests backup PGs in the league. I agree with your premise that I wouldn't pay $$$ for one, but if you can obtain one for a reasonable deal, it's worth it IMO. For every Frazier (assuming he continues his play) there's a Tony Douglas or over the hill Steve Blake. Those guys come in and lose leads like it's job. I think with having Jrue, it's even more important to have another PG to give Jrue quality rest.

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I think in our situation though we just don't have the luxury of matching a 5-6 million dollar deal for a guy like Frazier. And since we have had success almost every season finding a Tim Frazier esque backup, its the place I would personally not want to sink too much money into.

We need a starting caliber SF and some quality depth at a couple other positions. If for nothing else injury insurance.

Plus we will likely still have Evans on the roster most, if not all of the season. So in all likelihood Gentry is gonna be like Portland and have Jrue or Evans - his two starting guards - handling the facilitation duties most of the game by staggering their minutes. Or so I would imagine. So while I really like Tim Frazier and think he has a solid future as a role player, I am not sure it is wise to pay that much too keep him.