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re: The 5th pick scenario
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:44 am to BrowDown
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:44 am to BrowDown
From Draftexpress:
The quickness bit is being exaggerated in this thread. The guy isn't CP3, but he's far from Greivis.
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Burke is undersized for a point guard, standing around six feet with a relatively narrow frame, but as mentioned in the past, he compensates for that somewhat with an extremely long 6-5 wingspan. He is a solid athlete as well, quick in the open floor and extremely shifty in the half-court, although not terribly explosive around the basket.
The quickness bit is being exaggerated in this thread. The guy isn't CP3, but he's far from Greivis.
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:49 am to Jester
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I've read multiple places that there is concern
If they were actually scared he wouldn't be at the top of all the draft boards still.
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Are there concerns about Noel's health? Absolutely. This is his second significant leg injury (he broke his leg as a sophomore in high school), but there's not much of an alternative.
"Broken leg and ACL, no offense and 215 pounds," one NBA general manager told CBSSports.com. "And he still may be, and should be, the No. 1 pick."
LINK
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:03 am to TigerinATL
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If they were actually scared he wouldn't be at the top of all the draft boards still.
Hello, Greg Oden. Scouts and GMs in the NBA have a long history of looking past bad knees in big guys with high ceilings.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 10:04 am
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:11 am to BrowDown
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Again, you're passing your own opinion on as absolutes. You have no idea how he his on the ball pressure will be with 1) Monty as his coach 2) He's not playing 40+ minutes a game and 3) In a totally different environment than the UM system.
Look at someone's defense in college almost always translates to how well they will play defense in the NBA.
Unless they have the build and athleticism that can translate with coaching. Burke doesn't seem to have that.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:14 am to Jester
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The quickness bit is being exaggerated in this thread. The guy isn't CP3, but he's far from Greivis.
Good. Then you must have seen on Draft Express that he is fairly poor when rotating in defense and that he doesn't pressure the ball well.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:21 am to Jester
Greg Oden was a bit more complicated than a broken leg 3 years ago and a torn ACL.
Since the Blazers won't be drafting him, I think Noel is in the clear
#SCIENCE
Since the Blazers won't be drafting him, I think Noel is in the clear
#SCIENCE
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:23 am to Jester
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Scouts and GMs in the NBA have a long history of looking past bad knees in big guys with high ceilings.
Perry Jones and Sullinger's injury potential dropped them to the 20s and both guys were considered top 3 picks at points in their college careers. It's not like GMs actively ignore injuries, it's a risk calculation and it sounds like most GMs would be willing to bet their jobs on the fact that Noel knees won't keep him from reaching his potential.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:39 am to BrowDown
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"wasting" a 5th pick on him.
Also never said we would be wasting a pick. I said Monty and Dell won't draft him because it goes against what they have been saying. We will trade out or down if Dipo or Porter isn't there and someone doesn't slide. Or go a different direction.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:50 am to BarbaricPelican
whats up Phelpsalot
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:04 am to BarbaricPelican
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I said Monty and Dell won't draft him because it goes against what they have been saying.
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whats up Phelpsalot
Pretty glaring giveaway.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:30 am to MrPappagiorgio
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whats up Phelpsalot
Right? He's not very good at this.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:35 am to BrowDown
Honestly don't have a clue what you guys are talking about...
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:37 am to BarbaricPelican
I also love the, "oh we'll trade down if so-and-so is gone" angle. WHO IS TRADING UP IN THIS DRAFT?
Nobody.
Nobody.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:39 am to BrowDown
Jazz could. They need a PG and I think they have 2 picks. could also trade out the draft for a young vet. I know Monty said in an interview that we are too young of a team. CJ McCollum could rise to that spot. Lots of possibilities really.
Also wouldn't be surprised that if Orlando falls to third or even second in the draft, they take Burke with Afflalo locked up and needing a PG pretty badly.
Also wouldn't be surprised that if Orlando falls to third or even second in the draft, they take Burke with Afflalo locked up and needing a PG pretty badly.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 11:42 am
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:43 am to BarbaricPelican
Sure they could, they won't. This isn't the NFL draft, teams don't trade up especially for this class.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:46 am to BrowDown
Agreed. Almost all of the time they don't because there is too much value in the top 5 compared to late lottery and teams would rather acquire a better asset that can be traded draft time, July, or a later date rather than moving down in a draft.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 11:49 am
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:19 pm to corndeaux
I also cringe at the idea of New Orleans drafting a guy named Nerlens. Hearing the "Nawlins" dumbasses is bad enough.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:21 pm to TigerinATL
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Perry Jones and Sullinger's injury potential dropped them to the 20s and both guys were considered top 3 picks at points in their college careers.
Let's be honest. Sullinger's drop also had to do with being 6'6" while Perry Jones' game was seriously questioned before the draft.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:40 pm to Jester
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Let's be honest. Sullinger's drop also had to do with being 6'6" while Perry Jones' game was seriously questioned before the draft.
Yea. PJ3's motor was really questioned big time. Sully was considered too short and not athletic snout her to make up for that. Also, they said he doesn't play above the rim.
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