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re: Tank Watch 2016: 3/3 Update
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:20 am to 504ByrdGang
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:20 am to 504ByrdGang
BSS Article - Draft Options
I'm far from a McNamara fanboy, but this article was really well done minus the obvious contradiction when talking about Hield's shooting stroke.
As disappointing as this year has been, our suckiness has allowed us an opportunity to address a position of need through the draft. After Demps' disastrous offseason last year, options were slim going into this one. That's something at least.
I'm far from a McNamara fanboy, but this article was really well done minus the obvious contradiction when talking about Hield's shooting stroke.
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He scores because he has an amazing stroke and a quick release, and quite frankly, because he is smarter than everyone else on the floor.
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Secondly, I don’t love his stroke. He pushes the ball too much for my liking; It’s not a natural, smooth stroke. I think his shot could get blocked more in the pros, and I also wonder if he can maintain his accuracy with the line a few feet further back.
As disappointing as this year has been, our suckiness has allowed us an opportunity to address a position of need through the draft. After Demps' disastrous offseason last year, options were slim going into this one. That's something at least.
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:20 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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This is how I feel regarding the SG position too. Hield fits perfectly. I believe the Pels will ended up picking between 8-13 and Hield will be the only player on the board in that range that will make an immediate impact on the roster.
Oh yes that win now no time to develop young guys mentality that has worked so well "He can contribute now even tho their are guys who have the potential to be better than him" that short term thinking is why we are the position we are in now.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:25 am to mm2316
We are not "good" anywhere except for Davis. He's the only long term guy under contract
Holiday and Evans are up after next year. You are not drafting to fill a position, you are drafting the BPA. There are 4 starting jobs up for grabs for 2018, as we sit now
Quincy pondexter is not a "piece"
Holiday and Evans are up after next year. You are not drafting to fill a position, you are drafting the BPA. There are 4 starting jobs up for grabs for 2018, as we sit now
Quincy pondexter is not a "piece"
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:27 am to 504ByrdGang
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Oh yes that win now no time to develop young guys mentality that has worked so well "He can contribute now even tho their are guys who have the potential to be better than him" that short term thinking is why we are the position we are in now.
Wouldn't this be pretty contradicting of your statement about not drafting SG, being that EG is a FA this year, and Tyreke is a FA next year. Unless you view Q-Pon as a long term start at SG, which I disagree. You can't use Pondexter as a "3 and D" guy as a reason that we are ok at SG, then say we have a huge hole at SF, when he plays most of his minutes at SF.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:33 am
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:28 am to GynoSandberg
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Quincy pondexter is not a "piece"
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:28 am to GynoSandberg
To Mr Heild isn't BPA he has the lowest ceii and highest floor that is playing it safe. Like MM said he a man playing against boys and is having a breakout year. You don't settle you look for a guy who has the potential to be a star and I see heild as an OK role player that will not be a key piece to any team.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:29 am to mm2316
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I don't think a package of the 2nd round picks necessarily gets us in the 20s, but it would be nice.
Yeah, I've been trying to figure out tradeback options. There aren't a ton of teams in the back half of the lottery with SF needs, so a guy could want like Luwawu might last later than his current big board position would indicate.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:29 am to GynoSandberg
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We are not "good" anywhere except for Davis.
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Quincy pondexter is not a "piece"
Agree on both. I get the love for Q-Pon, I really do. He's a guy we drafted, he played well down the stretch in a playoff season, and he is on a cheap contract. However, we don't ignore the opportunity to improve at SG because he's on the team.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:29 am to 504ByrdGang
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Oh yes that win now no time to develop young guys mentality that has worked so well "He can contribute now even tho their are guys who have the potential to be better than him" that short term thinking is why we are the position we are in now.
It's not really short term thinking. IMO, Hield is the best talent on the board in that range and he will fit perfectly on this team. He pairs well with Jrue and he a great shooter that will provide the threat we need to space the floor. So, tell me who will be the floor spacer when we lose EG and Anderson?
We still have Q who can be serviceable at the SF until we find a trade partner for Reke and fill the holes via trades or through this free agency.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:30 am to 504ByrdGang
Let's be real,dsell is going to trade on draft day
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:35 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
This fan base has a hive mentality "He can help now", "he can shoot 3s and Gentry likes 3s", "win now". People are getting Gentry's system confused with golden state. The system is about ball movement and playing with pace not chucking 3s at every position. The Spurs are one of the top teams and shoot near the least amount of 3s. I want defense not shooting, you can always find shooters.I will also promise you Reke will be on this team all next season.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:38 am
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:38 am to 504ByrdGang
you realize next years team will look nothing like this years, right?
2nd question, have you ever seen Luwawu play?
2nd question, have you ever seen Luwawu play?
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:43 am
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:40 am to Lester Earl
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you realize next years team will look nothing like this years, right?
I don't think he realizes that
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:46 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
i mean there are going to be more than 1 way to skin this cat. We lose arguably our 2 best 3pt shooters while the remaining players cant stay healthy, and this guy is over here asking why would we want back court shooters.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:49 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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It's not really short term thinking. IMO,
Yeah, even though I want them to draft a SF, I wouldn't be upset with drafting Hield. I just think there might be some better moves to make than keeping the pick. Like trade back with Phoenix and get the Washington and Cleveland pick. For those of you that don't like Luwawu, pick Denzel Valentine with Washington's pick and hope Taurean Prince falls to the Cleveland pick. That's 2 high IQ role playing seniors that provide skill sets this team is lacking. Hield is shooting 48% on 9 3s a game but Valentine is shooting 44% on 8 3s a game, and Valentine has plenty of intangibles like Hield, so while you can make the case that Hield > Valentine, I don't know if the case is as solid if it's Hield vs. Valentine and Prince.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:51 am to Lester Earl
I've done my research he's 6'7 without shoes has a 7'2 wingspan and weights around 210. He plays for a top French that is more competitive that college ball and is a major contributor. Hes a versitle defender with quick feet and with his length can guard the 1-3. He has a decent stroke that has great improved this past year and shoots off the drible. He's an athletic guy who can play above the rim. Hes also a good passer and looks for the open man. His biggest faults are scoring through contact at the rim and creating off the dribble. People are also iffy on him due to his huge development in one year and if its sustainable. He has the ceiling of a Batum/Butler/Leonard type player. He fits Dells mantra of a guy with experience and has played at a big level.
Here's and video of his offense passing and defense
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Here's and video of his offense passing and defense
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:06 am to 504ByrdGang
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We have Q a 3 and D off ball guy and a lock down defender.
Dude, you are overvaluing QPon. He is a nice guy to have on the bench, but you are hurting if he's your starter.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:08 am to Jester
Q is like Danny Green he's servicable
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:30 am to 504ByrdGang
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Q is like Danny Green he's servicable
its pretty much, if he's your option its not a bad option. He'll knock down the shot you need him to and he's gonna defend like you want him to.
But that doesn't mean you can't find an improvement. Someone longer, someone faster, someone who's more capable at doing most things better.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 1:37 pm to 504ByrdGang
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Despite if you like Tyreke or not he's not being traded he's coming off a season of 3 knee surgeries. All I am saying we can live and be still be very competitive at the SG position with 3 guys of Tyreke, Q, and BDJ. As with the SF position we still have nothing but a few bench players to try to act like
You just said it your self, Evans has had three knee surgeries and has historically battled injuries. This will be the second time Qpon missed a whole season essentielly. And Jrue, well we all know Jrue's story by now.
We are absolutely not secure at the guard position. Sucks to have so many question marks after what should have been a successful rebuild but such is the life of Pelicans fans today.
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