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Start Dante Cunningham at the 3
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:08 pm
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. The only 2 players that would start instead of him would be Reke and Quincy. Reke needs to lead the 2nd unit so he can drive and kick to Ryno. Pondexter shot pretty well from 3, or at least he def improved so tyreke could be kicking to Ryno and QP for threes as part of the 2nd unit.
If Cunningham comes off the bench with a whole new unit, say Cole, Reke, Dante, Ryno, ajinca, we really only have 1 player (Ryno) that can spot up for the 3 bc Dante takes long twos. I know Dante said he is working on his corner 3 so that's good to hear, but starting him and using him to guard the opponents best 2 or 3 or even 4 sometimes would allow for more 3 point shooting for the 2nd unit.
His minutes can remain the exact same but we already have gordon jrue and soon to be AD shooting threes in the first unit, add QP and that's 4 players that can stretch it out to the 3. I think one of the guys (QP) needs to come off the bench so we have at least 2 solid corner shooters for Reke to look for. Babbitt will be available but I worry about his defense.
If Cunningham comes off the bench with a whole new unit, say Cole, Reke, Dante, Ryno, ajinca, we really only have 1 player (Ryno) that can spot up for the 3 bc Dante takes long twos. I know Dante said he is working on his corner 3 so that's good to hear, but starting him and using him to guard the opponents best 2 or 3 or even 4 sometimes would allow for more 3 point shooting for the 2nd unit.
His minutes can remain the exact same but we already have gordon jrue and soon to be AD shooting threes in the first unit, add QP and that's 4 players that can stretch it out to the 3. I think one of the guys (QP) needs to come off the bench so we have at least 2 solid corner shooters for Reke to look for. Babbitt will be available but I worry about his defense.
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:22 pm to MrPel
A lot of what you are saying makes sense. I just think we way overthink bench roles and the 2nd unit. A lot of games, starters are going to play close to 40 minutes. Guys will have to mix together and be able to co-exist. This was a big issue that the last coach had to fight. I don't think Gentry is going to go down that road again..
Posted on 7/30/15 at 6:23 am to brmark70816
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I just think we way overthink bench roles and the 2nd unit
As much as staggering makes sense, didn't I see a Demps quote that they'd play a lot of guys? I want to say 12 is the number I remember seeing. In other words this team will be running so there will be lots of subs to stay fresh so bench guys will get some burn. Figuring out what packages work and don't work is definitely important. One of the bigger differences between Monty and Gentry is illustrated with Robin Lopez in Phoenix. Some stats guys told him the numbers said Lopez should start. Gentry said "that can't be right, but I'll give it a try." Monty would have said "Anawhatics?"
Posted on 7/30/15 at 6:35 am to MrPel
I like our small forwards and think they would all be really solid role players on a contending team. Im not certain any of them could truly be a long term starter for us at the position though.
I love Alonzo Gee's potential, although most people I talk to seem to disagree
I love Alonzo Gee's potential, although most people I talk to seem to disagree
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 6:36 am
Posted on 7/30/15 at 6:41 am to brmark70816
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overthink bench roles and the 2nd unit
I believe there will be much smarter staggering of players than we've seen. I'm hoping the all bench units are ditched, like Kerr did in Oakland
It's intersting because there is probably enough depth now that Monty just might have been able to get away with it.
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starters are going to play close to 40 minutes
I sure hope not.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 7:00 am to cmlanier
We just need competency at SF and that shouldn't be a problem at all with these guys.
Long term starter at SF will likely come in 2016(or 17)
Gee is a bit of a wildcard. He's been fairly average at shooting 3s but he ticks a lot of boxes:
1.Athletic as hell and can run
2. can defend multiple spots
3. can finish in transition(he's the best SF on the roster at this)
4. Can play the 2 if needed
He'll be a nice chess piece for gentry and erman could make him even better defensively.
Long term starter at SF will likely come in 2016(or 17)
Gee is a bit of a wildcard. He's been fairly average at shooting 3s but he ticks a lot of boxes:
1.Athletic as hell and can run
2. can defend multiple spots
3. can finish in transition(he's the best SF on the roster at this)
4. Can play the 2 if needed
He'll be a nice chess piece for gentry and erman could make him even better defensively.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 7:16 am to corndeaux
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I believe there will be much smarter staggering of players than we've seen
God almighty, I hope so.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 8:01 am to MrPel
No. Honestly I think DC loses the most minutes from the Gee signing. Either QPon or Gee will start at the 3. I expect we'll run more small lineups than last season. DC will have to learn the corner 3 if he wants to compete for minutes on this roster in that case, though he could be the 4 in a small lineup if he can hit the corner 3. His complete inability to shoot the 3 really hurts his chance to play in this offense and I think our other options at the 3 are more well-rounded than him
Posted on 7/30/15 at 8:19 am to Upperdecker
I had no idea that people thought so highly of Gee. He is a journeyman that hasn't cracked a two deep in two seasons. Its strange that we had him last season and didn't keep/use him, when we were desperate for a SF. But even though we upgraded and have 2 decent ones, Gee is going to beat them both out (?). Did Gee get that much better last season?
Posted on 7/30/15 at 8:22 am to brmark70816
Gee is lucky to be in the league imo. Anybody expecting a contribution out of him even up to what the Pels got out of Cunningham last year is expecting too much.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 9:11 am to brmark70816
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I had no idea that people thought so highly of Gee.
I think the excitement is coming from both a slow offseason and the fact that he's a serviceable NBA player unlike John Salmons or what we got out or Rivers and Jimmer last year. We've gone from
Tyreke out of position with no 3 and no D/Babbitt/Salmons
to
Pondexter/Gee/Cunningham/Babbitt
That is a huge upgrade, but some people seem to be hoping for more than going from bad to serviceable. Maybe because Pondexter and Cole both outperformed in the shooting department. People should get open looks with AD and the new style.
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 7/30/15 at 9:43 am to brmark70816
Most likely QPon will start. But I think Gee will be the 2nd most mins at SF. I don't think Babbitt or DC will be able to beat him out bc of his fairly rounded skill set
Posted on 7/30/15 at 9:50 am to brmark70816
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Its strange that we had him last season and didn't keep/use him, when we were desperate for a SF.
Last year was a bit of a different scenario with him being that his guaranteed contract was a valuable trade piece. Along with Gee, there were a few SF options that we had last offseason that could have cracked our rotation that we gave traded away or cut (Cassipi, Shawne Williams). None of them would have been a great help last year, but I would have like to seen what Cassipi would have looked like on the team, especially being that he shot over 40% last year from the 3.
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