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Sorry for not knowing... Ryno question
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:53 am
Why didn't we trade Ryno before the deadline? No takers? Want to re-sign? IMO he isn't worth what he'll command as a FA.
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:56 am to Sprung
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Why didn't we trade Ryno before the deadline? No takers? Want to re-sign? IMO he isn't worth what he'll command as a FA.
No one (besides the FO) knows for sure. The easy answer is that Dell did not receive an offer he thought was worth it.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:56 am to Sprung
my best guess is they want the money this offseason
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:57 am to Sprung
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Why didn't we trade Ryno before the deadline?
It's puzzling considering his minutes declined 5 MPG after the All Star Break. That doesn't seem like a move you make with a player you're ready to overpay to keep, which they'll need to be. But Demps and Gentry don't appear to have been on the same page with Asik and Ajinca either so...
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:06 am to TigerinATL
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It's puzzling considering his minutes declined 5 MPG after the All Star Break. That doesn't seem like a move you make with a player you're ready to overpay to keep, which they'll need to be. But Demps and Gentry don't appear to have been on the same page with Asik and Ajinca either so...
It is puzzling. Demps got Monty fired and then made sure that Gentry had the exact same roster as Monty. It was almost like he wanted to prove that Monty was holding the roster back instead of changing the roster to fit Gentry's system.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:43 am to NOFOX
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It was almost like he wanted to prove that Monty was holding the roster back instead of changing the roster to fit Gentry's system.
Well, the roster was never healthy this year, so we have no idea of knowing if he was holding it back.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:00 pm to dj30
The roster hasn't been healthy in the last 5 years.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:06 pm to Sprung
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Why didn't we trade Ryno before the deadline?
Because Dell Demps is either incompetent or hamstrung by his bosses (probably both) who are also incompetent. Benson / Lauscha / Loomis clearly don't grasp that the NBA is different than the NFL - you can't go from worst to first in the NBA like you can in the NFL.
The Saints' success in 2006 has doomed the Pelicans because the architects behind the Saints' resurgence are the same people running the Pelicans now. They don't know what they don't know, therefore this franchise is fricked unless and until they hire a competent and fully empowered NBA GM to call the shots.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:13 pm to The Pirate King
We at least had Tyreke last year and AD missed way more games this season.
Also we didnt seem to turn it around until QPon got here last year and obviously he didnt play all season.
Also we didnt seem to turn it around until QPon got here last year and obviously he didnt play all season.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:37 pm to Sprung
I really don't know how much interest there would be in him. He is a very unique player that thrives in a very specific role. I can think of some situations you can shoe horn him into. But I don't believe those teams would be better off with him. He just isn't a good player and whatever team pays him this off season will be making a huge mistake. We should have flipped him after the 1st season we had him, when his value was high..
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:38 pm to SirWinston
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Because Dell Demps is either incompetent or hamstrung by his bosses (probably both) who are also incompete
i dont get why people thought it was beneficial to force a deal with guys that come off the books. They would have really had to like a player in order to take on another longer contract. From the lack of deadline deals there really wasnt much to bed had. They did the right thing.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:45 pm to Lester Earl
Because they are afraid, rightly so, that they will re-sign Anderson because they couldn't "evaluate" this core.
The alternative isn't necessarily a comparable, longer contract. Toronto, if they were interested, was likely offering expirings (Scola) and 2nd(s).
If you want the cap space and don't care about bringing Anderson back, why not do something like that?
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They would have really had to like a player in order to take on another longer contract
The alternative isn't necessarily a comparable, longer contract. Toronto, if they were interested, was likely offering expirings (Scola) and 2nd(s).
If you want the cap space and don't care about bringing Anderson back, why not do something like that?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:02 pm to corndeaux
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If you want the cap space and don't care about bringing Anderson back, why not do something like that?
outside shot of the playoffs, and a 2nd rd pick may not have been worth it to them to just dump Ryno, who has been a model teammate and player for our franchise.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:24 pm to Sprung
Dell has ran his course in Nola
Hard to toss Gentry after one season with a beat up roster, although I don't think he will be our answer either and didn't think he would be before he got here..
But Dell needs to go
Hard to toss Gentry after one season with a beat up roster, although I don't think he will be our answer either and didn't think he would be before he got here..
But Dell needs to go
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:46 pm to Lester Earl
Dude, trade Ryno for an expiring for a late 1st (or even a 2nd) to a competing team. It's a no brainer. Ryno is the type of player that could give the Cavs a shot in the Finals, or give the Raptors or Celtics or Thunder a chance to reach the Finals. Plus you give Ryno a chance to compete for a title, which generates good will.
We didn't want to win down the stretch anyway. This team is run by fricking retards.
We didn't want to win down the stretch anyway. This team is run by fricking retards.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:58 pm to SirWinston
Why don't you think they didn't do that?
Posted on 4/16/16 at 6:31 am to Lester Earl
Why do you think the market was so bad that we couldn't give him away for 2nds and expirings? Reports have come out suggesting we wanted too much. The same thing happened with Kaman, someone we knew we weren't resigning, playoff teams with need and cap space or expirings to trade and we couldn't even get a 2nd? Indy was the no brainier team with him IIRC.
I can understand valuing Ryno's Bird Rights more than 2nds, except once a trade didn't happen the coach cut his minutes. Not a good sign if you want to resign him.
I can understand valuing Ryno's Bird Rights more than 2nds, except once a trade didn't happen the coach cut his minutes. Not a good sign if you want to resign him.
This post was edited on 4/16/16 at 6:34 am
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:16 am to Lester Earl
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outside shot of the playoffs,
Wayyyyyyy outside
Posted on 4/16/16 at 7:51 am to TigerinATL
Its a market
Alejandro doesn't understand it takes 2 to tango
Alejandro doesn't understand it takes 2 to tango
Posted on 4/16/16 at 9:04 am to Lester Earl
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ust dump Ryno, who has been a model teammate and player for our franchise
If you're sending him to Toronto this season, you're not just dumping him to a desolate team.
Plus, if he's a model teammate/player, 2 things:
why don't you want to keep him beyond this season?
And why are you keeping him on a team 10+ games under .500 at the deadline? Wouldn't a franchise that values model players want to help them play meaningful ball in the spring and potentially increase his FA stock?
Certainly, the return for him was always going to be lower than what most thought (id be surprised if anyone offered a first). Maybe they asked him if he wanted to go and he said no. That's fine. Maybe they think he will be cheaper than what has been suggested. We clearly don't know everything.
To me, it just seems like this core is broken. Whittling it down to 2 guys (+ unfortunately Asik) and building from there makes the most sense. If you are going to do that and can get an extra pick, even a 2nd, why not? You're just increasing your chances of finding a player that can help
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