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Solid Take on Pelicans Point Guard Future

Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:58 am
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2144 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:58 am
Solid read. Brings up some very interesting points on making Tyreke Evans the permanent point guard. Thoughts?

Make Evans Point in '15-'16

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Evans appears to be the most dependable and certainly the most durable at the position, and his overall play this year helps give the spot a collective grade of B.

As he became more secure as the starting point guard, Evans was a willing passer whose size gives him the ability to better see the floor when operating the Pelicans' offense.

He's a threat to drive and score, which can often collapse a defense around him, leaving others open for easy looks.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 11:00 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115276 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:03 am to
As usual, I completely disagree with Jimmy Smith. I honestly think the guy is an idiot.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:04 am to
I think Evans is a solid player who is gritty as hell….I don't think he has the talent to ever win an NBA championship…against great perimeter defenders, he has one of the lowest basketball IQs out there.
Posted by LSUpelsSaints
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
433 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:07 am to
completely disagree with this article....... if Tyreke is our starting PG moving forward, we are completely screwed...... Jrue is the starter and we should have Tyreke and Cole coming of the bench with the 2nd unit
Posted by LSUpelsSaints
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
433 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:08 am to
i also think that this is the first time that "Solid Read" has ever been used to describe a Jimmy Smith article
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115276 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:08 am to
He is a very gritty player with an elite skill: getting to the basket. He heals fast, gives it his all, and appears to be a really ,really great teammate.

He's just a bad defender, a bad shooter, and he gets shut down against good defensive teams (Yes, I know that's what good defensive teams do, but he seems to be particularly susceptible). His basketball IQ also appears to be legitimately horrendous.

I would LOVE to see him get lots of minutes back in that first sub off the bench role.

I would rather Jrue start and run the team if healthy.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:14 am to
SMH... Jrue is so underrated
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16206 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:15 am to
If Jrue isn't an option, I'd rather Cole run the offense versus Tyreke.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 11:15 am
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7052 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:34 am to
Everybody doesn't like tyreke cuz he can't shoot. Nobody likes a guy who can't shoot. Bottom line. Without him running point this season we don't even come close to playoffs. Jrue is good but have we seen good jrue in 2 seasons hardly? If he gets injured again there ain't someone we gonna be able to pickup that will come close to tyreke Evans. Also tyreke playing off the ball is usually pointless since he CANT SHOOT remember
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:50 am to
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If Jrue isn't an option, I'd rather Cole run the offense versus Tyreke


No way. I've said it before. Take away the last 5 minutes of the game, and the perception of Tyreke on this board is completely different.

That said. Holiday is the best PG on this team by a healthy margin and should be running point if he can ever stay healthy.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32845 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

If Jrue isn't an option, I'd rather Cole run the offense versus Tyreke.


I like Reke, but I agree with this. Jrue's defense is great and he's a good facilitator. Cole is good at what he does.

I like Reke coming of the bench or being used in a way that causes match up problems.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71935 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:21 pm to
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SMH... Jrue is so underrated


Nah

Our fans are the only people in the world who have a jaded view on how good Jrue actually is.
Posted by tigerinjac
Member since Dec 2012
487 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:38 pm to
Tyreke Evans does not and will never fit any basketball system. He is too playground oriented. He will win some for a team but will more or less get exposed as he did in the GS series. He has no outside or midrange game which makes him useless in a playoff series. His defense leaves a lot to be desired. If the dude could ever institute the team concept into his thought process he would be awesome. He has a lot of talent offensively but a lot of tunnel vision, with low basketball IQ. His style stops ball movement which kills momentum. I wish him well and have no ill toward him, but don't want back on the Pelicans for next year.
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13542 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:54 pm to
I honestly don't think it's fair to characterize Tyreke as a "selfish player". He just has a specialist skillset that does not equal an effective starting PG to run our offense. I think he genuinely likes to facilitate and is a fairly skilled passer. He's just prone to mental lapses, poor shooting, and defensive breakdowns

Jrue is a superior point guard. Top-5 defender at the position. Better shooter. Solid passer. Excellent freethrow shooter in the clutch. We're a vastly better team with him running the point.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Solid read. Brings up some very interesting points on making Tyreke Evans the permanent point guard. Thoughts?



Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 1:43 pm to
I like Tyreke and think there's a role for him with this team.

I just don't see it as the point. He may be the prototypical Bill Simmons "Good numbers, bad team" guy, he may be a heckuva second unit leader who gets crunch time minutes, or he may be able to start as a slasher with Jrue and a 3/D wing. That 3/D guy has to be special, though, because Tyreke is tough to hide on D.

Point is, in the playoffs, great teams attack opposition weaknesses, and Tyreke's perimeter shooting and poor defensive play isn't good enough to win a ring. And with AD on board, winning a ring has to be the goal everything works toward.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32320 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

He is a very gritty player with an elite skill: getting to the basket. He heals fast, gives it his all, and appears to be a really ,really great teammate.

He's just a bad defender, a bad shooter, and he gets shut down against good defensive teams (Yes, I know that's what good defensive teams do, but he seems to be particularly susceptible). His basketball IQ also appears to be legitimately horrendous.

I would LOVE to see him get lots of minutes back in that first sub off the bench role.

I would rather Jrue start and run the team if healthy.


You hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned.

Tyreke is made for that Jamal Crawford role.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8226 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:18 pm to
Can't believe I am saying this but I agree with JS. The nba is all about mismatches, and Reke creates mismatches. He's an elite on ball defender, but he needs help (read coaching) re help D.

Jrue scares nobody. Come playoff time, when you need someone to go for the jugular, Jrue isn't your guy.

I think we need both players, though.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76624 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:26 am to
quote:

but he needs help (read coaching) re help D.


He's gotten plenty of coaching. He is a poor defender. It's established.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 2:00 am to
quote:

The nba is all about mismatches, and Reke creates mismatches.


Against some but not others

quote:

He's an elite on ball defender, but he needs help (read coaching) re help D.


I'm shocked at his eliteness there but we'll see how he further improves.

quote:

Jrue scares nobody.


That because he's not aggressive enough. He's downright scary when aggressive.

quote:

Come playoff time, when you need someone to go for the jugular, Jrue isn't your guy.


That's what AD is for and Jrue can assist in that role.

quote:

I think we need both players, though.



Agree



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