If you pull out how terrible and dysfunctional it will make the franchise look and your only criteria is to give this team its best shot at a title over the next 15 years, it is undoubtedly the best move.

If you can get two top picks from this draft and next (assuming your own in both drafts because the team will stink and the Nets picks), you have a foundation to start with. And you should be able to get more than that, plus you get to see Boston make Lebron cry

But from a business perspective, it would be a death sentence. Just can't do it

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Posted by ShamelessPel

Metairie

Member since Apr 2013

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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:19 pm to Crewz

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But from a business perspective, it would be a death sentence. Just can't do it

They better chop the price of my STs in half if I'm expected to tolerate multiple 15-18 win seasons instead of raising them every year as we get incrementally worse.

As for Tiger's idea, I don't see how you trade AD without coming away with either Simmons/Embiid. I don't understand why you would involve Boston at all. Simmons/Noel/1sts/crap for AD/Holiday. You instantly have the front court of the future in Davis/Embiid with the cap room to go after free agents.

Regardless, you don't win the ultimate prize in this league without a dollar. Trading our dollar for a bunch of dimes and quarters (even if they equal a dollar) makes us no more viable towards a title than we are now. Simmons/Embiid have a chance to be a dollar. No one in your scenario has that expectation.

IN - 2017 Lakers pick, 2018 Brooklyn 2nd, 2017 Sixers Pick, 2019 Kings pick, Simmons/ Okafor or Noel

OUT - Davis/Holiday/whatever else they want from our team not named Diallo/Hield/Frazier.

The Sixers will NEVER have a better chance to go get a top 5 player in the league than they do RIGHT NOW. They should absolutely empty their stockpile to go do it if the opportunity presents itself. In this scenario, they are only giving up their own pick for one season. They still have all future first past 2017, OKC's in 2020 (which could be valuable), and a shitload of 2nd rd picks.

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Posted by NOFOX

New Orleans

Member since Jan 2014

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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:23 pm to NOLA Bronco

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As to trading Davis, with the losses piling up, I see no reason to pull that lever just yet. At least not til you get a feel for what the top 5 in the draft looks like....where we are likely picking. It's a long shot but maybe we hit the jackpot one more time and get the #1 pick and things start to look a little bit brighter.

Exactly. Talent like AD doesn't get traded this early in a contract. He's too valuable and what if we get lucky again. Even if you were going to trade AD , you can't trade him for picks this year. You would have to wait and know exactly what those picks will be and who is available.

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Posted by TigerinATL

Member since Feb 2005

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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:47 pm to ShamelessPel

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I don't see how you trade AD without coming away with either Simmons/Embiid. I don't understand why you would involve Boston at all.

Boston will give you everything they have outside of Horford because adding AD would in theory allow them to add CP3.

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Simmons/Noel/1sts/crap for AD/Holiday.

Simmons is supposed to be a franchise player so I'd take that, and you're right, that's probably what to aim for rather than picks. One problem is it'd be pretty hard to dump bad contracts if they get Holiday too. You at least need enough filler so they take Hill.

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Posted by Snipe

Member since Nov 2015

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Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:00 pm to saintsfan92612

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We have one of the top 10 players in the NBA but only about 3% of the city gives a rats arse.

And that's because the other 14 players barely crack top 100 and year after year it's the same thing.

The OP is right. Davis's talent and career are being wasted in NOLA worse than Paul's were. Soon even Davis will com to this conclusion and this will not end pretty for the fans. AGAIN!

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Posted by Snipe

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Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:03 pm to TigerinATL

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A combination of Philly and Boston do.

Boston gets AD
Philly gets Jaylen Brown and Isaiah Thomas (or whatever trading those can bring back that Philly wants)
NOLA gets Okafor, the Brooklyn 1st from Boston and the worse of the Laker/Philly 1st from Philly.

The Pels get a young core of Buddy/Diallo/Okafor and 3 likely top 5 picks. If you're going to start over that's a pretty good start.

Danny Ainge steals CP3 from Doc in FA and the Celtics become instant contenders with CP3/AD/Horford.

Philly gets more assets to build around Embid and Simmons.

None of that matters unless you burn the front office to the ground and rebuild that first.

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