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re: Nola article on AD leadership
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:46 pm to BadTyreke
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:46 pm to BadTyreke
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What is your solution Mr. Panty's in a Bunch? Why can't anyone make a negative, but honest observation on this board without you getting offended? We all can't rah rah around on AD's 3 piece all the time. When your "Superstar" leads a team to an 11-26 record and there are going to be people that point that out.
There's a difference between constructive post, or established, rational posters making thoughtful observations.
His posts are obviously calculated to troll.
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:51 pm to 504Voodoo
I still say that we need to pump the brakes a little with his developmental arc. Let's remember he is still only 22 and the media has tried to shove him down our throats as the next great thing. AD hasn't had the luxury of having vets like say, a KD had throughout his formative years. KD had Kevin Ollie and Nick Collison types to help teach him how to lead the way and be a pro.
Who does AD have/had to teach him how to lead prior to Kendrick this year? Dell assembled a core group of players that really have had no winning experience in the NBA. EG, Jrue(Granted, not putting much stock into those 1t round exit 76er teams), and Reke had not been in a real positive environment prior to last season's success. While Kendrick is that guy, he can only do and say so much from the bench. AD will get there but Dell or whomever or next GM will be, needs to start putting some veteran leadership that actually plays and gets minutes in that locker room.
Who does AD have/had to teach him how to lead prior to Kendrick this year? Dell assembled a core group of players that really have had no winning experience in the NBA. EG, Jrue(Granted, not putting much stock into those 1t round exit 76er teams), and Reke had not been in a real positive environment prior to last season's success. While Kendrick is that guy, he can only do and say so much from the bench. AD will get there but Dell or whomever or next GM will be, needs to start putting some veteran leadership that actually plays and gets minutes in that locker room.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:53 pm to 504Voodoo
Here's the actual article that OP should have posted
it wasn't a NOLA article. It was a BR article.
it wasn't a NOLA article. It was a BR article.
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This isn't so much about my fellow NBA scribes' projections. There was no doubting the statistical dominance Davis achieved last season. Even now, amid the disappointment, he has remained in the clear upper echelon on offense and has been one of the league's hardest guys to score against, according to NBA.com.
What is missing, though, is real and crucial when it comes to becoming a basketball Jesus: leadership.
Until Davis discovers that important intangible part of himself, he'll continue to be flat-out overrated.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:57 pm to quail man
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Until Davis discovers that important intangible part of himself, he'll continue to be flat-out overrated.
I agree with that snippet totally. I am just hoping we can get a vet with another credibility and collateral that AD will respect him and he will take AD under his wing. A la KG with Karl Towns.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:06 pm to Boomshockalocka
Like no one on the rockets.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:12 pm to JayJay2
This thread isn't about the rockets but since you made it that way I'll tell you that harden has lead HOU to the playoffs every season he's been w the team. And with a worse supporting cast than Davis. His first season is Houston the next 3 best players were parsons, asik, and Lin. Not many players could lead that supporting cast to the playoffs in the west just saying bro.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:16 pm to Boomshockalocka
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This thread isn't about the rockets but since you made it that way I'll tell you that harden has lead HOU to the playoffs every season he's been w the team. And with a worse supporting cast than Davis. His first season is Houston the next 3 best players were parsons, asik, and Lin. Not many players could lead that supporting cast to the playoffs in the west just saying bro.
While the pels may have more talent, Harden has a better team when it comes to roster build out. It is almost like Dell just assembled a group of really talented players, rolled a ball out there, and said go win some games. The pieces do not fit the puzzle. Meanwhile, Houston has done a decent job of putting parts around Harden that work with his game.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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His posts are obviously calculated to troll.
I don't necessarily agree with him, but I don't get why he's trolling. People have been questioning AD's effort since the start of the season. I've seen AD so into the game, pumping his fist and shite, that the whole arena goes wild. But I've also seen him pretty nonchalant at times this season too.
People will question his toughness since goes to the locker room more than anyone I can remember. This last injury, no doubt, was legit as they come. But I remember the dude looking like he was out for the year going into the locker room, only to come out like Willis Reed.
Bottom line is if he wants to be a superstar like we know he is, he needs to take this team on his back and refuse to lose. He's probably been handled with kid gloves his whole career bc of how good he is. I'm glad Gentry has been getting on him lately. Come on Anthony, let's go. You're too good to be leading this team to only 11 wins.
I'm not trolling.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:23 pm to 504Voodoo
Pretty much a no brainer that dell needs to go I was surprised to see him keep his job last offseason. Im curious if there are more people who want dell to be GM next year than there were people who wanted monty to keep his job after last season. Gotta be close.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:23 pm to 504Voodoo
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I agree with that snippet totally. I am just hoping we can get a vet with another credibility and collateral that AD will respect him and he will take AD under his wing. A la KG with Karl Towns.
isn't that exactly why they brought in Kendrick?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:26 pm to quail man
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I agree with that snippet totally. I am just hoping we can get a vet with another credibility and collateral that AD will respect him and he will take AD under his wing. A la KG with Karl Towns.
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isn't that exactly why they brought in Kendrick?
Like I said in an earlier post, Kendrick is that guy but there is only so far those words will go when it is coming from the bench. AD needs a vet that still is on the court regularly and playing along side him.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:28 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Pretty much a no brainer that dell needs to go I was surprised to see him keep his job last offseason. Im curious if there are more people who want dell to be GM next year than there were people who wanted monty to keep his job after last season. Gotta be close.
yeah It seems like Benson/Loomis doubled down on Dell and it has backfired. I still don't think Monty is ultimately the guy to take the team to the next level, but it may start to be obvious that we overrated Gentry as a whole.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:33 pm to 504Voodoo
Williams isn't a championship level coach but he could've been the mark Jackson. Establish a winning culture. Get the team into the playoffs consistently. Then hire the next coach to get you over the next hump. Mind-boggling to me that Williams would get fired because the team blew a lead in the playoffs v the team who won the whole thing. Really? What coach in the NBA has been able to slow GS down when they're in the middle of a run? They had runs like that all year on every team they played.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:35 pm to Fun Bunch
And this is the only thing he comments on
Nothing about anything else
The actual basketball talk and what to do have hit rock bottom on this board. It is sad when PR has more actual discussion.
Nothing about anything else
The actual basketball talk and what to do have hit rock bottom on this board. It is sad when PR has more actual discussion.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:36 pm to 504Voodoo
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AD needs a vet that still is on the court regularly and playing along side him.
That's Norris Cole, baw.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:39 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Williams isn't a championship level coach but he could've been the mark Jackson. Establish a winning culture. Get the team into the playoffs consistently. Then hire the next coach to get you over the next hump. Mind-boggling to me that Williams would get fired because the team blew a lead in the playoffs v the team who won the whole thing. Really? What coach in the NBA has been able to slow GS down when they're in the middle of a run? They had runs like that all year on every team they played.
But that's the thing.. It seemed as if that "next coach" was available and it was Gentry. I was a little apprehensive towards the hire because his track record is terrible at every stop damn near. I let the Gentry fanboy in Amin Elhassan talk me into him being the guy.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:40 pm to LosLobos111
You gotta be kidding me! What else is there to comment on? We have won 11 games. I am not a fricking troll. I am a fan that sees an organization that has made terrible decisions over the past 3 years. What we are seeing is the result of these decisions.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:40 pm to BadTyreke
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AD needs a vet that still is on the court regularly and playing along side him.
That's Norris Cole, baw.
I should have specified that the player had to actually be good.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:45 pm to tigerbait3488
This is like the 3rd or 4th thread bitching about AD you've made.
Its getting very stale man
Actually come up with relevant ways to try to fix this,you know know actual basketball talk?
Its getting very stale man
Actually come up with relevant ways to try to fix this,you know know actual basketball talk?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:46 pm to 504Voodoo
Forget leadership. He's worse at everything this year. PPG, FG percentage, FT percentage, blocks, steals. The only thing he's improved on statistically is rebounding, marginally.
It's disconcerting that he's not continuing to improve. If this is his peak, it's still great but not what we were hoping for and definitely not enough to lead the team to a title.
It's disconcerting that he's not continuing to improve. If this is his peak, it's still great but not what we were hoping for and definitely not enough to lead the team to a title.
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