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Monty's rotations in the 4th

Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:53 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:53 pm
He played Asik a decent amount even though that didn't really pay off with Chandler drawing 2 fouls on him.
He only gave Reke a few minutes of rest after Wolters did his best Rivers impression.
He replaced Cunningham with Pondexter early in the 4th which I wanted to see since Pondexter is more useful on offense.

I'm sure if we had lost this game there'd be plenty of bad coaching decisions to point to, but we won and I have to say his rotations in the 4th were good.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:55 pm to
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I have to say his rotations in the 4th were good.


As far as I'm concerned at this point, if we win they're always great decisions.
Posted by PKTiger
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:09 pm to
The only sub that mattered was getting AD back in. The team is awful when he is off the floor.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:10 pm to
I thought Gordon did the best on Ellis tonight and there was entirely too much Wolters, but Monty not only had a positive impact on the game, he made some amazing decisions late. The double on Monta was genius.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:11 pm to
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there'd be plenty of bad coaching decisions to point to,


I don't know. Most of it was fine even it had been a loss. Ellis hit some crazy shots at the end over Asik. shite happens. Not much a coach can do there.The offense stalled a bit, but how much is on him v the players?
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:12 pm to
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The double on Monta was genius.


Genius?

If im calling for a double team from my couch, I hope the coach sees the same thing.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:14 pm to
G. It wasn't just the what. It was the who and the how as well. He pushed the perfect buttons.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:15 pm to
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Genius?

If im calling for a double team from my couch, I hope the coach sees the same thing.


Illogically calling for it is different than making a smart call..... The double team on Carmelo a few games was horrible. He's a chucker who doesn't hit a great percentage if he's not muscling a guy down low and we double him from the least threatening place on a ball court(long 2), leaving a wide open 3 point specialist at an incredibly easy spot to find and pass.

Recognizing that, say, Al Farouq Aminu is in the game and you can afford to rotate over knowing you won't be in that much trouble if they find him open would be an example of a smart double team. Getting way too caught up with the word "clutch" and thinking you need to put 2 guys on a guy who shoots the same percentage as the guy you leave wide open just because its the last 2 minutes is not.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 8:17 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:17 pm to
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The double team on Carmelo a few games was horrible. He's a chucker who doesn't hit a great percentage if he's not muscling a guy down low and we double him from the least threatening place on a ball court(long 2), leaving a wide open 3 point specialist at an incredibly easy spot to find and pass.


That's been a hallmark of Monty's defense the past few years.

Not simple digging on the post, but needlessly doubling and then no one knowing how to rotate to the wide open shooter.....Just like Pop drew it up
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:19 pm to
It worked out great. I did give props to monty too in the game thread.

I'll say this. If Monta would have gotten the ball w out a double team and scored, you would have seen me with a quintessential Shameless Pel meltdown. I probably would have gotten my first ban.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:26 pm to
I more mean that they used 2 athletic wing defenders to corral him into a tough spot instead of just using a big to try to deny the ball. It was very well designed.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17712 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:45 pm to
I didn't expect him to get the ball that close to the side. That kinda helped out on the trap. The play was guarded beautifully.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30062 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:20 pm to
I thought we fouled at the end I was going to flip a table. I like the fact crunch time we played less ryno. This team can score, so put asik in and let the two guards and AD generate stuff.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32846 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:46 am to
Yeah, the rotations at the end of the game were really good. Monty sometimes makes good calls. Not always. But sometimes.

He still doesnt bring much energy to the team though.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:31 am to
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I thought we fouled at the end


Maybe the refs are starting to give us the benefit of the doubt. If that game was a month ago, I feel fairly certain that they would have called QPon for a loose ball foul on the decisive play.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:37 am to
I was fine with all of Monty's coaching last night other than keeping Wolters in the game too long. He's abysmal on defense. Can't guard his own man, doesn't play help D. JJB made him look like a statue in the 3rd quarter. Granted there was nobody behind him for help, but damn.. that was embarrassing.

I know we don't have many other options at PG right now, so I guess I can't blame him too much. Just thought he played too much.

Only other time I was upset was on the inbounds play late in the 3rd or early in the 4th with 9 seconds left on the shot clock. May have been the players fault, I'm not sure, but the inbounds pass was thrown to QPon who then lobbed a slow pass to Tyreke at the half court line. That wasted majority of the shot clock, then Tyreke jacked up a 4 pointer.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61420 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:39 am to
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Maybe the refs are starting to give us the benefit of the doubt.


I think it was home cooking. If the same play goes down in Dallas it's a foul on Pondexter.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22384 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:41 am to
As bad as the defense was all game it was great in the 4th qtr. And im happy to admit that it was 100% scheme. We would quickly double Dirk and get the ball out of his hand. The only shot we were letting him take was the 3. And he took for a clip of about 1-4 down the stretch. Even on the Monta layup to give them the lead, I thought we defended it well.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:47 am to
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As bad as the defense was all game it was great in the 4th qtr. And im happy to admit that it was 100% scheme. We would quickly double Dirk and get the ball out of his hand. The only shot we were letting him take was the 3. And he took for a clip of about 1-4 down the stretch. Even on the Monta layup to give them the lead, I thought we defended it well.


The defense was better than the score would indicate, in my opinion. Monta Ellis was red hot. He was draining threes with hands in his face and defenders in his pocket.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:18 am to
Only plays that REALLY upset me was a lack of rebound effort by Ryno(and Wolters) in the beginning of the 2nd quarter that gave up a 3. Wolters thought it was so obvious that Ryno would grab it that he didn't even try either.

Then there was the rebound conceded on the missed free throw that resulted in a 3 when we were up 8. Ended up being a 4 point possession. I could understand if Dirk misses his 2nd free throw and it takes a tough hop..... But this was freaking Rondo. He's almost a certainty to miss it. Expect a miss. It was a totally normal rebound that they just allowed a scrub like Powell to come over their back and bat away because they didn't give any effort.

Those are 2 effort plays that gave up 6 points. And I'm not nitpicking on the effort. It was pitiful on both accounts.
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