Page 1
Page 1
Started By
Message

Memphis 17-8 vs Pels 8-17

Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:27 pm
What's the difference in these two teams? Is it coaching gap b/t Gentry and a rookie HC that huge?


Both rosters riddled with injuries.

Memphis has won 6 straight, capped off with a win vs the Warriors with a starting lineup of:

PG- Andrew Harrison
SG- Tony Allen
SF- Troy Williams
PF- JaMychal Green
C- Marc Gasol

Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80155 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:01 pm to
Pels defense is horrible
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:16 pm to
Our defense isn't bad Memphis is just the best
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:16 pm to
Coaching is the only difference
Posted by Silverfoxx
Member since Mar 2016
880 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:18 pm to
I ran out of excuses for this team
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:56 pm to
Our roster isn't elite, but we have more talent than a 7-18 team IMO. The fact that a roster with AD on it is 11 games under .500 is terrible.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30079 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 2:01 pm to
Gasol is a better defensive anchor than Davis.

And their guys actually hit open 3s, we brick them.
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 2:16 pm to
Would you say we have equal talent to what Memphis has been trotting out?

I tend to think so. Which highlights how poor of a coach Gentry is.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40924 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:07 pm to
I think they have a better bench. They also play more like a team, which begins and ends with the environment the coach makes. Fizz is a fantastic coach.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:20 pm to
Mindset. It starts with the fans too.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

They also play more like a team, which begins and ends with the environment the coach makes


Gasol, Conley, Z-Bo, and Allen have been through the wars together, seem to enjoy playing with each other, and have been a 50 win team since 2011.

not a knock on Fizdale because he has to get those vets to buy what he is selling, but when you have a successful veteran core, it makes surviving injuries so much easier. it makes navigating off (game) nights easier.

the Grizz have the best defense in the league and a bottom 5-10 offense (some of that is injuries to be fair). this isn't exactly a new formula that Fizdale brought to town
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

I think they have a better bench. They also play more like a team, which begins and ends with the environment the coach makes. Fizz is a fantastic coach.



Yeah I am going with this. They have a solid coach but more importantly they are building their system and play around the parts they have, not the ones they wish they had, and the pieces they have, even depleted, make more sense.

They aren't running out a Frankenstein roster of misfit parts demanding perfection on both sides of the ball in a system that IMO takes a certain roster of athletes to really excel in. Then having the head coach lose his mind every other possession because that square peg didn't immediately fit in that round hole.

Synergy is a real thing. Plus its cliched but Gasol and Allen know how to win.

This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 6:49 pm
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123584 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:52 pm to
Why couldn't we have gotten the Grizzlies instead of the Hornets?
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Mindset. It starts with the fans too.


It starts with the players, coaches and management. You want fans to show up, give a better product. Fans want to support a competitive team. I guarantee that if they'd be a decent team fans would rock the arena. We've seen it before.
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:55 pm to
From Hollins through Joerger to Fizdale, Grit 'n' Grind has been the staple in Memphis and is something coaches and players can fall back on

We don't have anything like that
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 11:03 am to
It's Marc Gasol. He is quietly one of the most dominant players in basketball. Everything goes through him. He sets up the O and the D. If he's on the floor, we have a chance against anyone.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16943 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

It's Marc Gasol
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:27 am to
Zach Lowe today on ESPN.com

1. The genius of Marc Gasol

This freaking guy. During another improbable Grizz comeback against Portland last week, Gasol caught the ball at least 5 feet behind the 3-point arc while trailing a possession and realized no one was guarding him. He looked around, shrugged -- literally, the dude shrugged in the middle of a game -- and just jacked a 30-footer. Cash money.

Memphis is 7-2 since Mike Conley busted his back. That is insane. They larded up on sad-sacks like Philly, Orlando, and the Lakers, and we all kind of assumed the bottom would fall out against better competition. Then they rallied against Portland, and spanked the yappy Warriors. (Seriously: Golden State mean-mugged its way through a road win against an injury-riddled Utah team subsisting on Joe Ingles 3-pointers. Maybe just take the W and chill?)

This is the best story of the first 25 games, and it would not be happening without Gasol. During Conley's absence, Memphis has blitzed teams by almost 15 points per 100 possessions with Gasol on the floor -- and wilted into a D-League outfit when he sits, per NBA.com. His calculating, careful game holds up well in crunch time, and the Grizzlies, for what feels like the seventh straight season, are squeezing out wins in almost every close game.

It has been fascinating to watch a natural sharer get a little bit selfish because his ravaged team needs it. Gasol is shouldering the heaviest scoring burden of his career, setting up shop on the left block and waiting to see if opponents double him. If they don't, he'll bulldoze into the lane for a short hook. Sit on that move, and he'll turn over his left shoulder, fade away along the baseline, and draw rain with perhaps the most telegenic post move in the league (at least while Dirk Nowitzki's one-footed special is on ice).

Gasol is venturing a little out of his comfort zone as a shoot-first alpha dog, and he's thriving. He remains a brilliant passer; he's on pace for one of the highest assist rates ever from a big man. Gasol should be in the conversation for a No. 4 or No. 5 spot on MVP ballots.

Players know. Talk to rivals about Gasol, and they'll tell you he's even better than you realize.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram