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K.J McDaniels

Posted on 6/6/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 3:28 pm
I actually forgot to mention him in my MLE SF thread but I figured he needed his own thread. He was a second round pick of the Sixers last year and was traded to the rockets mid season.

Highlights

6'6 205 pounds with a 6'11 wingspan

With philly his stats were: 9.2 PPG 3.8 Rebs 1.3 Asts 0.8 Stls 1.3 Blks

Shot 40% FGs and 29.3% 3 Pointers

+Athletic freak that can do well in fast break situations(we'll have a lot of those)

+One of the better shot blocking wings and a very solid defender that can guard multiple positions.

+Energy will never be a problem

+Just turned 22 with room to improve

-Shooting percentages weren't very good but nothing awful either,still quite raw.

-Ball handling isn't great

-BBIQ is a little questionable


He somewhat reminds me of a younger corey brewer or maybe even Ariza. Think Dell will take a chance?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66343 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 3:44 pm to
well he knows how to dunk

never hurts
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 3:44 pm to
I would love to land him. We need athletes on the wing so bad. I think he could do well in Gentry's system.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 4:29 pm to
I don't think you take the chance on him. He's an RFA so Houston can lock up your cap space/MLE for 3 days before it matches. And Gerald Green is available. He may not be a good defender and is older than McDaniels, but he is much more proven as a scorer in an up tempo attack and you know you won't be wasting the MLE going after him.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 5:20 pm to
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Houston can lock up your cap space/MLE for 3 days before it matches


And you can bet Morey will.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:03 pm to
It probably wouldn't come to that. I can't think of a player that's been stolen via hostile bid that wasn't a poison pill (are you really going to poison pill with the MLE?). The team either always matches or telegraphs in advance that they'd be willing to do a S&T. I've already said I wouldn't put McDaniels as my top FA acquisition, but if you wanted him...he wasn't even in the Houston rotation last year (33 minutes played total), so rather than pay $5.4 million to keep him, maybe you do a double S&T of Babbitt. Houston gets a cheap shooter and $4 million trade exception out of it.
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Tayday
Houston, TX
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:39 pm to
He literally couldn't get on the floor when he was traded to Houston. Wouldn't throw more than 1 mill a year at the guy.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:55 pm to
Ariza/Brewer etc were ahead of him. He'll command a lot more than 1 mil in FA due to his potential and solid production in philly.


Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

He'll command a lot more than 1 mil in FA due to his potential and solid production in philly.



Yeah, but he'll probably get it from a non playoff team with cap space and the development time to wait for him. Playoff teams usually can't afford to blow the MLE. Look at the Hornets with Posey, or the Clippers this year with Hawes. No way should we make a run at McDaniels unless he's a throw in like if we trade Ryno to get our #18 back.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:18 pm to
You're probably right

I just think he can turn into Ariza-lite in a year(or 2) and could potentially be a steal. He has the most potential of the "MLE SF" candidates and showed flashes of productivity. Under Gentry/Erman he could become a stud shorter than you may think.

Maybe he could be gotten for the BAE(roughly 3 mil?)

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

He literally couldn't get on the floor when he was traded to Houston. Wouldn't throw more than 1 mill a year at the guy.

He is a rookie who was traded to Houston mid-season and was behind Brewer and Ariza. And on top that, McHale doesn't really like to play rookies anyway.

Him not getting much playing time on the Rockets doesn't really mean anything.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 8:21 pm to
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Him not getting much playing time on the Rockets doesn't really mean anything.


I think it is an indication of his value to Houston, ie he's an asset not a core piece that Morey would be happy to flip.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 9:41 pm to
Or maybe he is insurance if they can't get Brewer back.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

6'6 205 pounds with a 6'11 wingspan


Same height and reach as T. Evans. Evans has 20lbs on him and still can't play SF for some reason..
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 12:14 am to
Tyreke doesn't have the raw athletic ability/quickness Mcdaniels has that's needed to guard the wing(ecspecially in the west).





This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 12:18 am
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 1:48 am to
quote:

Tyreke doesn't have the raw athletic ability/quickness Mcdaniels has that's needed to guard the wing(ecspecially in the west).


So who can he guard then? Aren't PGs much quicker and athletic than SGs and SFs? I get that he isn't a good defender. I don't think it's cause he is lacking anything though. It just comes down to desire and system..
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

No way should we make a run at McDaniels unless he's a throw in like if we trade Ryno to get our #18 back.


I will always wonder why dell didn't just trade Anderson for asik straight up. Unless I've missed something the salaries are similar enough to make it legal. With the 18th pick the SF from Virginia should be available
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61438 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 4:13 pm to
1) Houston was clearing cap space to make a run at Bosh.

2) If Ryno was his normal self last year we're closer to 50 wins and you aren't asking this question.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38639 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:00 pm to
when the asik trade was made they were clearing space but there was ample opportunity to do that trade earlier if you believe what everyone was speculating

the time to move him was when he wasn't tainted by injury or his play
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:22 am to
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will always wonder why dell didn't just trade Anderson for asik straight up


Because, on paper, Anderson, Asik, Davis is a very good 3 man frontcourt. Because Anderson, even w/ an off year, is a huge + with Davis for the team.

Monty et al couldn't scheme for Anderson/Asik and we saw that pair for something like only 200 minutes. Maybe they just wont work and there isn't an answer, but it's worth giving another shot with fresh eyes IMO
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