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Jimmy Smith and Pelicans writers for Nola.com

Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted by LSUpelsSaints
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
433 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:15 pm
I can't stand any of them, especially Jimmy Smith. It's sad that these are the guys who are writing about the Pels for the average fan. Their arguments are always so closed-minded and they have no clue what the hell they are talking about.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40924 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:20 pm to
they don't write anything in depth. just a bunch of fluff pieces. not sure either of them understands the game any more than an average fan. not exactly what you want from the beat writers of the (once) major news source in the city
Posted by LSUpelsSaints
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
433 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:26 pm to
LINK

The write garbage like this. The trade is completely unproven at this point. But they are immediately going to just bash Dell.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 2:31 pm to
He's getting blasted(rightfully so) in the comments as well.

He sounds like some tards on here
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61434 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 3:31 pm to
Wow, I didn't even finish reading that. AD is going to see no moves being made to improve the team because Demps didn't trade a worthwhile player, something we don't have an abundance of, for a draft pick before the deadline? If only there were other ways to improve your team besides the draft.

Jimmy Smith used to be better than this. It's either gotten personal between he and the front office, or he has to troll to keep his job.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Tha Herg
Herget Dorm
Member since Jul 2009
2924 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 3:31 pm to
Nola.com/Times Pic is absolutely garbage. The drop in talent at that paper has been significant.

I will check out Nola.com about every two weeks and each time I do, it's the same shite.

"Tell us which day you will go to Jazzfest this weekend" or "Do you think Jimmy Graham should be a TE or WR?"

I don't go to a news outlet to hear the opinions of the uniformed. I get they are trying to drive user input but they are over the top with how often it is done.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 3:36 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11847 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Nola.com/Times Pic is absolutely garbage. The drop in talent at that paper has been significant. I will check out Nola.com about every two weeks and each time I do, it's the same shite. "Tell us which day you will go to Jazzfest this weekend" or "Do you think Jimmy Graham should be a TE or WR?" I don't go to a news outlet to hear the opinions of the uniformed. I get they are trying to drive user input but they are over the top with how often it is done.
That is so true. The T-P is really just a rag trying to hold on for every last dollar they can grab. It is time to shut it down as they serve no purpose any longer.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Jimmy Smith used to be better than this. It's either gotten personal between he and the front office, or he has to troll to keep his job.


Has to be

You don't put desperate articles like this for no reason.



Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71952 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:38 pm to
It's not just the Pels writers, it's the NOLA sports media in general. The Saints are the hottest ticket in town we get Larry Holder.

Do these guys get any inside access? I'll be looking at twitter and a NOLA story will break nationally. And like clockwork, Holder will tweet something 5 minutes later, "Im hearing from sources that so and so....". No, you mean Adam Schefter just broke a story the own team's beat writer probably had no idea about
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:44 pm to
jmmy smith in the comments section

quote:

Please remember in this discussion, folks, that Noel was the player the Sixers wanted, therefore he was selected by the Pelicans. It's unlikely New Orleans would have chosen Noel. With a great need for a small forward, there was a player such as Giannis Antetokounmpo who went 15th to the Bucks or center Mason Plumlee who went 22nd to Brooklyn, either of whom could have piqued the Pelicans' interest. Noel was not the Pelicans' pick.
I love hindsight. does he really think we would've taken one of those two with the 6th pick? he dumb
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Ill make this simpler...

A. You say the Pelicans would be better off with a pick rather than the trade for Jrue...it's hypothetical, we all know, because they do not have the pick because they made the trade...But, remember; your argument is that the trade was bad because they lost the pick and having the pick would be better.

B. If having the pick would be better, as you say it would be, what would be the best move with the pick? Again, Im not arguing that the Pelicans have the pick still, I agree they do not. But if I would be claiming having the pick is better, and if I was a basketball beat writer for the basketball team in my city, I would have some arguments of how having the pick would improve the team...then I would proudly collect my paycheck.

Given that, isn't it fair to tell your readers what the Pelicans would be able to do with that 10th pick in order to prove your argument that the trade was bad?

How can we decide if the trade was as bad as you say if you will not tell us what they could possibly accomplish with the pick.

This really is not rocket science, your previous answer was purposely obtuse.


This is some 42 level stuff
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:58 pm to
Some Gems:

quote:

You dont mortgage your future for a back up PG




quote:

let's face it, Dell has a gem in AD and he is making all the wrong moves...not keeping two top ten picks, having two overpaid guards (Evans/Gordon) who don't play defense and make nobody better really aren't the steps in building a championship contender around AD


Even with their faults they're not bad at D(escpecially tyreke)

quote:

eoutrage 2 hours ago
@jack yeah, like they need another guard...they already have over a $100 million tied up in the backcourt alone


Wat?

quote:

4neoutrage 3 hours ago
Two top ten picks for Jtrue Holiday is insane and giving Treke Evans 4 years / $44.00 million contract even worst not to mention Gordon's 4 years / $44.00 million contract...terrible, terrible, terrible moves


Gordon's contract is bad but the others are worth 10 mil a year

This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

I literally just made an account so that I could comment on how horribly misinformed this article is. Just an absolutely terrible article. We gave up a rail thin center with knee problems and a 10th pick in a draft that isn't all that deep after the first 5 picks for a proven PG with a complete skill set. Ill take this trade any day of the week for the pels. Yes Nerlens Noel could develop into a good player but he hasn't played a game in the NBA yet, and even in the slight chance that the 10th pick becomes a solid player this trade still isn't one sided because of the player we got in return. Jimmy Smith you must not know a lot about the NBA and I have absolutely no idea why you are writing for nola.com. I hope someone from nola reads all of these comments from educated fans on how horrible your articles are. Do us all a favor and get your facts straight or just stop writing.


Posted by CDemps77
Member since Sep 2010
20 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:05 pm to
Id like to see the local writers do articles comparing/ analyzing the moves and strategies each of the final 4 teams made in their past offseasons and how the pelicans can make similar moves to get there in the near future. And then take a more realistic comparison for next year like the Trailblazers ...instead of BS in past that can't be taken back and is way to early to analyze anyway.

Articles about how Austin Rivers toughness is what is gonna get him the minutes that needs to improve further.

Types of players that we need to look for in the offseason ....What players in Europe could be targets (that may be a difficult one)

Just spitballin ideas
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27299 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

10th pick in a draft that isn't all that deep after the first 5 picks
This draft is considered one of the strongest top to bottom in a while by many GM's.

Daryl Morey said, and I'm paraphrasing:

"We really like this year's draft. By the time we get through our process, we end usually with 20 guys that are draftable... guys we would use a roster spot on. Our pool during the year gets funneled down from 100 and by this time, maybe 40-50, and by the end of the process, 20. In a good year, you might get 23-24 draftable guys. In a year we don't like as well, you're looking at 15-16. I think the 25th pick will be better this year than the 25th pick most years. We do like that pick.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Daryl Morey said, and I'm paraphrasing:


"We really like this year's draft. By the time we get through our process, we end usually with 20 guys that are draftable... guys we would use a roster spot on. Our pool during the year gets funneled down from 100 and by this time, maybe 40-50, and by the end of the process, 20. In a good year, you might get 23-24 draftable guys. In a year we don't like as well, you're looking at 15-16. I think the 25th pick will be better this year than the 25th pick most years. We do like that pick.
well he definitely ain't gonna say it sucks we have the 25th pick
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61434 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

well he definitely ain't gonna say it sucks we have the 25th pick


Yeah, I haven't paid much attention to this draft, but what was paraphrased pretty much said "most drafts sucks, but this one sucks less. How much less? Conveniently enough it's stronger than normal right up to where we pick." I saw someone tweet a few days ago that after the Lottery Ainge talked about there were 6 players they really liked in the draft, where do they pick? 6th It's amazing how the talent level lines up perfectly with where teams are picking.
Posted by Alabama Slim
2009,2011 BCS National Champions
Member since Jul 2007
9927 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:39 pm to
with the uncertainty of projecting NBA draft players, I would gladly give up a #10 pick for a solid pg like Holiday.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:52 pm to


quote:

I love hindsight. does he really think we would've taken one of those two with the 6th pick? he dumb


@Jimmy Smith, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune Do you really think either of those players would have been the pick? Noel was the consensus at that slot. There is no way in hell we would have taken either of those guys at that slot, and there is no way in hell that ANYONE in the league thought that Pumlee was going to play like he did, or he would have been a top 10 pick.



You are reaching at this point.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40924 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:32 pm to
Dell, stop trying to get the media to do your job for you, bro
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