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re: Is Vasquez our PG for years to come?

Posted on 2/11/13 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 4:50 pm to
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Cp3 use to get tourched by scrubs in nola a good bit




4/10 good job good effort

Led the league in steals 5 times
All Defensive Team 4 times
Top 10 in defensive win shares twice
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:09 pm to
That's my point. A really good defender would get tourched. His last year had.more than a few.times.

So If it can happen to one of the.best I'm not gonna freak over it happening to gravy
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34245 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:23 pm to
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You are really underrating JJ. I know lots of people hated his style of play, but he's definitely in the same tier as Vasquez, every bit as productive and every bit the leader. The main difference would be Vasquez is still on a rookie deal for one more year, but after that I'd expect them to be in similar salary ranges. But I agree that there aren't many available SFs worth moving Vasquez for.


I just think Jack is extremely inefficient at running the point. He over dribbles and doesn't create much for others. I just think lateral moves are often negative as a whole because of chemistry.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:29 pm to
He is a good backup point guard. 6th man worthy.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278154 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:41 pm to
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He is a good backup point guard


hasnt he proved to be more than just a backup?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:49 pm to
Hasn't JR Smith proved to be more than just a backup? Hasn't Ryan Andersen? There is no shame in being the 6th man.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63431 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:13 pm to
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Hasn't JR Smith proved to be more than just a backup?


nope. a scorer when you need him.

quote:

Hasn't Ryan Andersen?


maybe. still like him off the bench in an ideal world.

Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8513 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:15 pm to
Op, Yes. Unless one better falls into our laps why trade?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63431 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:21 pm to
As far as trading Gravy, I'm not totally opposed, but the trade would have to improve the team A LOT. The guy is slow and not particularly athletic but he's a terrific player. Seriously, in spite of his limitations, who the hell do we bring in at PG? Really. Assuming everyone stays healthy (realizing there will be the occasional injury and a couple of games missed here and there), the 3 and 4/5 are where we need to focus on obtaining an elite or borderline elite player.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:28 pm to
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nope. a scorer when you need him.


He's the 3rd best player on the number 2 seed. I see there are still a lot of butt hurt fans from when he use to play here.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63431 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:30 pm to
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He's the 3rd best player on the number 2 seed.


And yet, he's still an a-hole and can lose a game with his assholiness.

I don't have any doubt about his talent, btw.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:34 pm to
I'm not talking about his hard headedness (he drove Karl nuts). I'm talking about his ability to be a starter. Barkley and a few of the Inside the NBA guys felt he was robbed of an All-Star spot.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:01 pm to
NO
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:56 pm to
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NO


Who would you have over gravy pray tell?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77344 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 7:57 pm to
Trade one of our best players? Yeah, that makes sense

Sounds like some of you just are turned off by his limitations and aren't able to see all the good he does. The proof is in the advanced stats.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71957 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 8:44 pm to
The advanced stat of advanced stats has him as the 20th best PG in the NBA
Posted by vargas43
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
89 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:17 pm to
I like him, however he doesn't need to be shooting the ball as much as he does.
Posted by Walter White
Judice Inn Booth 1
Member since Sep 2012
3111 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 7:25 pm to
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Gravy Train


Yessuh
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