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Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:05 pm to GynoSandberg
The crazy thing is that AD's numbers are VERY close to what he did last year in an historic season. The main difference is his efficiency is down. And most of that can be attributed to a combination of Norris Cole and taking 3 pointers this year.
24.4/10.2/2.9 = Next GOAT
24.1/10.2/2.2 = Oops, maybe he's just a Star and not a SuperStar
Here are his Per 36 numbers so people can see just how "bad" of a year he's having.
AD isn't having a bad year, they've just asked him to carry a lot more dead weight than he did last year.
24.4/10.2/2.9 = Next GOAT
24.1/10.2/2.2 = Oops, maybe he's just a Star and not a SuperStar
Here are his Per 36 numbers so people can see just how "bad" of a year he's having.
AD isn't having a bad year, they've just asked him to carry a lot more dead weight than he did last year.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:11 pm to GynoSandberg
Some people are forgetting Lillard isn't performing in a vacuum.
Portland has a very good coach and Lillard has a very complimentary supporting cast in a system the team has had time to adjust too. Not to mention health.
Give Davis that same level of quality fitting components and circumstances and I don't think this thread exists.
Portland has a very good coach and Lillard has a very complimentary supporting cast in a system the team has had time to adjust too. Not to mention health.
Give Davis that same level of quality fitting components and circumstances and I don't think this thread exists.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:12 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
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Anyone debating AD vs Lillard just doesn't understand basketball and no one should waste their time talking to these people tbh
Anyone that thinks it's not worth debating is delusional.
Lillard has 10 more wins with that team he has in portland. He doesn't have any other stars around him.
Id argue that Jrue is better than their second best player (Mccollum?)
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:16 pm to SouthMSReb
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Lillard has 10 more wins with that team he has in portland
Portland has 10 more wins than the Pelicans
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:18 pm to SouthMSReb
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Anyone that thinks it's not worth debating is delusional.
Lillard has 10 more wins with that team he has in portland. He doesn't have any other stars around him.
Id argue that Jrue is better than their second best player (Mccollum?)
It isnt worth debating. It is frankly ridiculous. Lillard has better coaching and system stability, a much more complimentary supporting cast, a much healthier supporting cast, isnt dealing with fricked up lineups that keeps his next best player on the bench and spending 1/3rd of his time without him.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:19 pm to Fun Bunch
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Portland has 10 more wins than the Pelicans
This is true.
Do you think Lillard has a better supporting cast?
People on this board HATED Aminu when he was here.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:24 pm to SouthMSReb
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This is true.
Do you think Lillard has a better supporting cast?
People on this board HATED Aminu when he was here.
Aminu has grown into a very competent two way player. Frankly we(Monty) gave up on him too early. He is a legit 3 and D with position versatility we would love to have right now.
McCollum is a great guard compliment to Lillard. The only knock would be overall perimeter defense with them. Their big rotations are very versatile and very complimentary IMO.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:25 pm to NOLA Bronco
I like Ed Davis a lot too. Crabbe is okay.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:26 pm to SouthMSReb
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This is true.
Do you think Lillard has a better supporting cast?
People on this board HATED Aminu when he was here.
aminu is better than gee or cunningham, but not better than QPon.
McCollum and Jrue are pretty much equal IMO. Issue is we only had Jrue-100% for 2 months.
Plumlee/Davis are better than Asik/Ajinca, especially now that Asik is injured.
Ryno > any of their other guys offensively, but he's piss poor defensively so its like a net even
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:32 pm to htran90
I would honestly love to get a hold of Meyers Leonard. He would be a great long term compliment for Davis. He has a better balance of offense and defense and can open up so much offensively for the team. He can provide the same defensive stretching without the blackhole tendencies and actually still has upside defensively.
Sad thing is we could of had him but chose Rivers....
Sad thing is we could of had him but chose Rivers....
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:51 pm to SouthMSReb
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Do you think Lillard has a better supporting cast?
I think you're both discounting the impact of coaching abilty and scheme change, and forgetting that Availability is the most important ability. What was the Blazers projected starting lineup this year? Current depth chart shows:
Lillard 7
McCollum 2
Aminu 0
Harkless 3
Plumlee 0
Had the Pelicans started the year healthy, the starting 5 would have been
Holiday 6 plus minutes restriction
Gordon 16 or Tyreke 33
QPon All of them
AD 7
Asik 10
BTW, those numbers are games missed. You're not comparing McCollum/Aminu/Harkless/Plumlee to Holiday/Gordon/Tyreke/Pondexter/Asik/, you're comparing them to a bunch of guys we signed to minimum and near minimum deals.
This is the starting lineup we rolled out last week
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 2:57 pm to TigerinATL
Good point.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:37 pm to SouthMSReb
No thanks.
Lillard is a tremendous leader, already a super star, and has appeal to even casual fans.
PG is deep in the NBA but how many teams are looking for a legit PG/Ball handler? Portland went through a billion PGs looking for one to replace Porter.
Lillard is a tremendous leader, already a super star, and has appeal to even casual fans.
PG is deep in the NBA but how many teams are looking for a legit PG/Ball handler? Portland went through a billion PGs looking for one to replace Porter.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:40 pm to NOLA Bronco
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Aminu has grown into a very competent two way player. Frankly we(Monty) gave up on him too early. He is a legit 3 and D with position versatility we would love to have right now.
I'd bump the threads but I was told Aminu was a bad signing and even 10 games into the season I was told he sucks.
quote:
McCollum is a great guard compliment to Lillard. The only knock would be overall perimeter defense with them. Their big rotations are very versatile and very complimentary IMO.
Was also told by this board that Damian and CJ won't get into the Playoffs.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:41 pm to SouthMSReb
It's crazy to think Lillard is 34 days younger than Jrue.
Is Lillard really doing anything different than say, what a John Wall, Ike Thomas, Reggie Jackson, Kemba Walker etc are doing? He's not the only backcourt guy carrying a team, but he seems to get the most love for some reason.
Is Lillard really doing anything different than say, what a John Wall, Ike Thomas, Reggie Jackson, Kemba Walker etc are doing? He's not the only backcourt guy carrying a team, but he seems to get the most love for some reason.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:42 pm to Boomshockalocka
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A guy who can get is own shot is by default more valuable than one who relies on someone else to get him the ball in spots where he can score.
I can't disagree with this post because I watched LMA put up numbers on bad Blazers teams. No matter what LMA did, we couldn't win until the others came along.
I can't agree though, because as a player, LMA has probably a top 5 skillset in the league. His ability to hit mid range shots and fades is amazing.
ETA: I actually agree with Boom on something Rockets/Pels related
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 3:56 pm to theducks
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Was also told by this board that Damian and CJ won't get into the Playoffs.
Playoffs shouldn't honestly be the goal for the Blazers. They just lost 4 starters. Fortunately you had McCollum ready to step up, but another lottery pick would do Portland good long term.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 4:01 pm to TigerinATL
I agree(d) with you. We're like 21-4 though since January 4th or something like that. It's not like we were stuck playing .500 ball, we got insanely hot and haven't looked back. Lillard has 30+ in 8 of his last 9.
I think our #1 need for FA (We're losing our pick) is to find a guy that can get his points down low. Our guys currently score off of put backs and easy dunks/layups.
I think our #1 need for FA (We're losing our pick) is to find a guy that can get his points down low. Our guys currently score off of put backs and easy dunks/layups.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 4:05 pm to theducks
To be fair nobody in the world saw McCollum going from low minutes off the bench to top 5 starting Sg
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