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Interesting article from 538 today. Pels get an interesting mention.

Posted on 7/7/17 at 7:46 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 7:46 pm
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/do-the-celtics-have-enough-star-power-to-win-a-title-not-yet/?ex_cid=538twitter

Here's some of it:

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Let’s develop some terminology to describe degrees of the stardom in the NBA. I’ll introduce three types of players: Alphas, Betas and Gammas.






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So let’s get back to the idea of Alpha, Beta and Gamma players, which were meant to correspond to a typical championship team’s best, second-best and third-best players. By looking at the historical data, we can define these classifications as follows:

An Alpha has a CPM of +6.0 or higher.
A Beta has a CPM of between +3.5 and +6.0.
And a Gamma has a CPM of between +2.0 and +3.5.

I re-ran CARMELO using CPM instead of its usual blend of statistics, and it projected the following players to be Alphas, Betas and Gammas for the upcoming NBA season:





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This makes for a fairly intuitive list. LeBron, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard are the league’s six Alphas. Chris Paul falls just short of the Alpha category; instead, he joins players such as Hayward, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Rudy Gobert and Anthony Davis on the Beta list. Gammas include players like Isaiah Thomas, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, John Wall, DeAndre Jordan and Paul Millsap.

So then all you need is an Alpha, a Beta and a Gamma and — presto! — you win an NBA championship? Actually, your options are more flexible than that. A team with an Alpha and a Beta — say, this year’s Houston Rockets — could probably skip the Gamma if they had a deep rotation. A team with no Alphas but three Betas — say, Jimmy Butler, Antetokounmpo and Kyle Lowry — would more than likely be good enough to contend for a title. A team with a very strong Alpha could go without a Beta and make up for it with two or more Gammas instead — that’s sort of how the current Cavaliers are constructed.

To help teams think through these decisions, let’s invent one more statistic, which I’ll call star points. The formula is simple: A team gets three star points for each Alpha on its roster, two for each Beta, and one for each Gamma. Next year’s Warriors project to have 9 star points, for example: three each for Curry and Durant, two for Draymond Green and one for Klay Thompson.

Even having that much talent on your roster doesn’t necessarily guarantee a title. But historically, a team’s chances of winning a title are remote if it has four or fewer star points. It has a fighting chance with five or six star points, depending on how the rest of the roster is constructed. And its probability increases rapidly once it acquires seven or more star points.

This system isn’t perfect, but it lines up intuitively with how we evaluate teams. After the Warriors and their nine projected star points next season, the Cavaliers and Rockets are the closest thing the league has to ready-made title contenders, as they’re tied for second at five star points each. They’re followed by the Thunder, Timberwolves and Pelicans at four each; these four-point teams probably need at least one more thing to click (say, George taking the next step in Oklahoma City) to be title-worthy. The Celtics are one of several teams with three star points.

This measure can underrate the importance of team depth; the Spurs, who have only three star points, are rated too low, for instance. The Celtics — although they’re losing a few players to make room for Hayward — are also a deep team, with lots of average or slightly-above-average players and lots of draft picks to keep priming the pump. They could probably compete for a title with five star points, therefore, instead of needing six or seven. Adding another Beta-level player might be enough to do the trick.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:32 pm to
I find it hard to take anything that has Victor Oladipo and Paul George in the same tier seriously.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:35 pm to
the ranking system is strictly stats based
it is interesting though...and an illustration of just how good Davis and cousins' stats really are. but...they ain't won shite

big caveat
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:40 pm to
So Kryie is a gamma while Lowry is a beta. Yeah right...
Posted by mr brightside
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:18 am to
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hey ain't won shite

big caveat




+1
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:24 am to
Lowry is a better player.


People love highlights so much. It's hilarious to me. Let's ignore the fact that Irving is horrendous on defense, and offers nothing else on offense outside of ISO scoring. Most overrated player in the NBA. He's nowhere near top 10, not even top 15 in my book. I find him to be arguably the most exciting player to watch, and he's a gifted scorer... but there's more to basketball than that
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 1:51 am
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:08 am to
Exactly.

Irving will never win shite once LeBron leaves.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 11:29 am to
But Kyle being arse in the playoffs has to factor in there somewhere.
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