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Grantland Article: The Draft is "The Ultimate Crapshoot"

Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:31 pm
By Bill Simmons

Someone remind me, hasn't Bill Simmons dogged us ALL YEAR for the Holiday trade because we traded a 6 and a 10 (Which he says in this article have historically rarely produced anyone of note) for a 23 year old allstar?

Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:40 pm to
fricking Simmons. Yells from the rooftops that the Jrue/Noel trade was stupid and the only way to build it through the draft, then calls the draft the ultimate crapshoot. Which one is it Bill? I really just think he hates small market teams.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:41 pm to
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I really just think he hates small market teams.


This correct

He's out of touch with the current nba
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:44 pm to
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I really just think he hates small market teams.


I think he legitimately views small market teams as development units for the big market teams.

As in, not how it is in reality, but how it should be.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:45 pm to
He must hate that small market teams are all the rage right now(MEM/POR/OKC/SA/Indy)

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:49 pm to
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He must hate that small market teams are all the rage right now(MEM/POR/OKC/SA/Indy)



He'll be pissed when these teams don't trade away their best players to the Knicks/Lakers/Clippers/Celtics/Bulls for peanuts
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:02 pm to
I don't like nola being small market team either. Sometimes I feel like we're trying to build a race car out of a Nissan Sentra to compete with the Corvettes of the NBA.

it does suck.. and I pull for the nissan sentra.
Posted by iAmThatMan
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:07 pm to
We will be a key destination in a little while.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:08 pm to
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That spot yielded two superduperstars (LeBron and Duncan), two all-timers (Howard and Iverson), three franchise guys (Davis, Rose and Griffin) and five All-Stars (Irving, Wall, Yao, Brand and Martin)


Davis should be included in that "all-star" category...

Just saying
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Davis should be included in that "all-star" category...


Franchise player > All star
Posted by iAmThatMan
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:12 pm to
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Franchise player > All star
Posted by chatchit42
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:18 pm to
Prolly wouldnt tab Duncan as a "superduperstar".....lofty adjective for a "franchise player" at best.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:19 pm to
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Prolly wouldnt tab Duncan as a "superduperstar".....
wat? the best PF of all time
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71485 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Prolly wouldnt tab Duncan as a "superduperstar"

I hope you're only saying this because he plays in a small market and never talks.
Posted by chatchit42
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:28 pm to
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wat? the best PF of all time



Bc of his championships, right?

Just think Duncan was a product of a great organization which had the right pieces for championship runs...i.e. A franchise player

KG, Dirk, and Barkley were better PF's imo.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:32 pm to
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Just think Duncan was a product of a great organization which had the right pieces for championship runs...i.e. A franchise player KG, Dirk, and Barkley were better PF's imo.


What is this I don't even
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:32 pm to
There is a common denominator in all of the Spur's titles.

Duncan is listed as a PF 9 of his seasons and a C the last 8 seasons, FYI
Posted by iAmThatMan
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:33 pm to
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chatchit42

Yaa...I really don't like Duncan AT ALL but even I have to and CAN admit that he's arguably the best PF of all time.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:35 pm to
Wow
Posted by chatchit42
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
1362 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:53 pm to
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I have to and CAN admit that he's arguably the best PF of all time




I'm trying to figure out why yall are saying he's the best PF of ALL TIME....not just right now, but throughout the history of the NBA. Toss out championships on this one.....I'm talking about being a PF who rebounded, blocked shots, scored from inside and out, etc.

I mean, I just cant put Duncan in the same category as Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, KD, Jordan and a few other players, who were considered as game changers and could put teams on their backs to win games.

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