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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:17 pm to LesGeaux45
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Sam Amico Sam Amico @AmicoHoops · Aug 11 On AmicoHoops: Anthony Davis says he doesn't "care what anybody says. We know what we're doing." #Pelicans #NBA
Right on AD right on
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:41 pm to LesGeaux45
I'm predicting 46-50 wins.
I think we'll be better than 10th. How much better depends on whether we win the games we should win on paper but often lose.
I think we'll be better than 10th. How much better depends on whether we win the games we should win on paper but often lose.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:07 pm to LesGeaux45
People are overrating the frick out of Minnesota, Denver, and LAC
Posted on 8/17/17 at 5:15 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Oh, and WWF - We winnin fiddy.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 6:33 pm to CocoLoco
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UT lost their best player.
i dont know. Gobert is really good. if he's healthy, they're likely a top 3 defense. you can win a bunch of games in the regular season with a superior defense and bad offense. dont think they're a playoff lock, but i wont be shocked at all if they're in the mix all year.
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MIN is being super overrated
Thibs gets the benefit of the doubt, w/o question. and he has earned it + Jimmy Butler helps a lot. but i dont think they are a high 40/50 win team. like others have said, 5-11 is a jumble for me.
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people saw a very small sample size, and they assume it won't work
the Pels had many people proclaiming them to be a playoff team post trade and they ended up 7 games back of the 8 seed.
it's fair to say small sample size, but that cuts both ways. cant claim "small sample size" for the things we don't like during that time, but then take the things we do like from that same time at face value.
dont think the Pels are the team we saw v Houston, Dallas, or OKC. dont think they are the team that put up a 6.4 Net Rating in March either though.
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It definitely depends on Cousins, and how he will play
agree 100%. if he shows up fully locked in, it will be a very fun season
Posted on 8/17/17 at 6:57 pm to corndeaux
I think most were really reasonable with the predictions post trade. I think I said 12-14 wins out the remaining games. A lot of people, like Calipari, said it will take time and people can't expect them to be good right away. I think with an off season together it'll certainly help.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:39 am to CocoLoco
Those grades make season more interesting.
To see surprise among so called experts.
One thing is when Pels are considered as a fringe PO team and finish 7-8.
Other thing is when they - as I expect -finish higher.
In the next days TBW Staff will be in the Limited Upside podcast (Mike Prada). And in the next weeks Duncan will meet Pels writer. Last year it was Verrier. Earlier it was Ginsberg. I would love Kushner there...
Curious about their discussion with Pels writers
To see surprise among so called experts.
One thing is when Pels are considered as a fringe PO team and finish 7-8.
Other thing is when they - as I expect -finish higher.
In the next days TBW Staff will be in the Limited Upside podcast (Mike Prada). And in the next weeks Duncan will meet Pels writer. Last year it was Verrier. Earlier it was Ginsberg. I would love Kushner there...
Curious about their discussion with Pels writers
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 12:41 am
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:07 am to pawel
LAC lost CP3, but they still have Bev and a better bench than last year.
Utah lost Hill and Hayward, which accounts for a lot of their offensive production. Defensively, they'll be fine with Gobert anchoring them. The question is can Hood, Rubio, and Gobert step up offensively.
Minnesota gets the benefit because they go from LaVine (injured) and Rubio to Butler and Teague. The issue now becomes spacing and mouths to feed. Who handles the ball, who plays off ball, who's okay with reducing shots. I've said it before, I'm trading Wiggins if I can get good value for him.
Utah lost Hill and Hayward, which accounts for a lot of their offensive production. Defensively, they'll be fine with Gobert anchoring them. The question is can Hood, Rubio, and Gobert step up offensively.
Minnesota gets the benefit because they go from LaVine (injured) and Rubio to Butler and Teague. The issue now becomes spacing and mouths to feed. Who handles the ball, who plays off ball, who's okay with reducing shots. I've said it before, I'm trading Wiggins if I can get good value for him.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 3:54 am to htran90
Anything less than 70 wins and this season is a failure
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:05 am to CocoLoco
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it will take time and people can't expect them to be good right away. I think with an off season together it'll certainly help
i agree. if they can get Davis and Cousins working optimally together (and they seem to be grinding to that this summer), a lot of the other questions fade away.
as much as we parse Holiday, Rondo, Hill, etc, most of this season will come down to Davis+Cousins and how they mesh together.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:59 am to corndeaux
So folks are really expecting Jokic and Milsap >>>AD and Boogie? That's what hot in the streets yeah?
So a second year player in Murray and Harris >>>Jrue Holiday and Rondo?
That's where we at?
Ok.
So a second year player in Murray and Harris >>>Jrue Holiday and Rondo?
That's where we at?
Ok.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:20 am to htran90
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LAC lost CP3, but they still have Bev and a better bench than last year.
They also lost Redick, they basically replaced him with Gallinari, though.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:24 am to Silverfoxx
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So a second year player in Murray and Harris >>>Jrue Holiday and Rondo?
Even if you include the wing position, I have a hard time thinking that Harris, Chandler, and Murray > Holiday, Rondo, and Hill
Some of these experts are huge Murray dick riders though (looking at you, Duncan and Leroux).
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:35 am to Epic Cajun
Murray was there to be traded all off-season and DEN refused to do it...that should tell you something. He's going to be a really good player, and the nuggets know it. jokic is already a Marc Gasol-level facilitator and millsap and Harris are two of the most underrated players in the league. Combine all that with a good system and their still considerable wing depth and you can easily make a case that they'll be much improved this year
if I had to open my wallet today DEN is a better play than the pels to win mid to upper 40's
if I had to open my wallet today DEN is a better play than the pels to win mid to upper 40's
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:42 am to cgrand
Unless Rondo and Jrue both completely shite the bed, the Pels are a much more talented team with a better defensive core than the Nuggets.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:10 pm to cgrand
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if I had to open my wallet today DEN is a better play than the pels to win mid to upper 40's
I actually really like Jamal Murray, but I can't agree with this. There's an experience gap at minimum between those 4/our 4.
I keep waiting for bovada to open over/under win totals on the NBA season. If Jazz are anywhere near the mid 40s, I'll put the max allowed $500 on the under. They just lost their two best scorers on a team that already couldn't score. Joe Johnson replicating his play in the playoffs is stupid unlikely. They may grind out some wins but that team is boned on offense.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:23 pm to ShamelessPel
vegas insiders has pels at 40.5 and nugs at 43.5
I'd take the over on both but if they were both 45, give me the nuggets over
I'd take the over on both but if they were both 45, give me the nuggets over
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:31 pm to Silverfoxx
Honestly Silverfoxx oddly enough I agree with you
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:05 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I just don't think Utah is better than us. Or Portland.
Or LAC
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